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The player from Japan faced issues with a deposit bonus, claiming that the casino had adjusted their wagering requirements without permission, preventing any progress. He believed the determination of bonus abuse was arbitrary and sought compensation for the bonus amount or a refund of his deposit. The Complaints Team had attempted to engage the casino for clarification but had not received a response, leading to the complaint being marked as "unresolved." The player was advised to consider contacting the Curaçao Gaming Authority for further assistance.
Spilleren fra Japan havde problemer med en indbetalingsbonus og hævdede, at casinoet havde justeret deres omsætningskrav uden tilladelse, hvilket forhindrede enhver fremgang. Han mente, at afgørelsen om bonusmisbrug var vilkårlig og søgte kompensation for bonusbeløbet eller en refusion af hans indbetaling. Klageteamet havde forsøgt at kontakte casinoet for at få afklaring, men havde ikke modtaget et svar, hvilket førte til, at klagen blev markeret som "uløst". Spilleren blev rådet til at overveje at kontakte Curaçao Gaming Authority for yderligere assistance.
Dette casinos bonus er den type, der konverteres til kontanter, når du satser et vist beløb med rigtige penge.
Jeg bemærkede dog, at uanset hvor meget jeg satsede, steg omsætningskravene slet ikke, så jeg kontaktede support.
Så påstod supporten, at jeg misbrugte bonussen, og det blev opdaget, at de havde justeret tingene uden tilladelse for at forhindre, at omsætningskravene blev opfyldt.
Afgørelsen af, om der var tale om bonusmisbrug, var vilkårlig, og det er uretfærdigt at foretage ensidige justeringer uden nogen underretning til brugeren.
Da bonussen burde have været konverteret til kontanter, ønsker jeg enten kompensation for bonusbeløbet eller en refusion af den indbetaling, jeg blev narret til at bruge.
I used the deposit bonus at this casino.
This casino's bonus is the type that converts to cash once you wager a certain amount in real money.
However, I noticed that no matter how much I wagered, the wagering requirements weren't progressing at all, so I contacted support.
Then support claimed I was abusing the bonus, and it was discovered they had been adjusting things without permission to prevent the wagering requirements from progressing.
The determination of whether it was bonus abuse was arbitrary, and it's unfair to make unilateral adjustments without any notification to the user.
Since the bonus should have been converted to cash, I want either compensation for the bonus amount or a refund of the deposit I was tricked into using.
Mange tak for din klage. Jeg er ked af at høre om dit problem med BetKudos Casino. Tillad mig venligst at stille dig et par spørgsmål, så jeg kan forstå hele situationen fuldt ud:
Hvilken specifik bonus brugte du? Kan du dele linket til den eller et skærmbillede med beskrivelsen?
Hvor meget satsede du, mens du forsøgte at opfylde omsætningskravene?
Hvilke spil spillede du for at omsætte bonussen?
Forstår jeg det korrekt, at bonussen blev fortabt, eller har I den stadig?
Har du adgang til din spillehistorik? Hvis ja, så send den venligst til min e-mail. [email protected] .
Jeg håber, at vi kan hjælpe dig med at løse dette problem hurtigst muligt. Mange tak på forhånd for dit svar.
Med venlig hilsen,
Natalia
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Dear player,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem with BetKudos Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely:
What specific bonus were you using? Can you please share the link to it or a screenshot with the description?
How much did you wager while trying to meet the wagering requirements?
What games were you playing to wager the bonus?
Do I understand correctly that the bonus was forfeited or do you still have it?
Do you have access to your betting history? If yes, please send it to my email [email protected].
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Natalia
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Kære spiller, vil du venligst dele den tilgængelige del af spillehistorikken og videresende al relevant kommunikation mellem dig og casinoet til [email protected] Alternativt kan du poste skærmbillederne her. Tak på forhånd.
Dear player, could you please share the available part of the betting history and forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to [email protected]? Alternatively, you can post the screenshots here. Thank you in advance.
Tak for dit svar. Jeg vil nu videresende din klage til min kollega Michal ( [email protected] ) som vil stå til din tjeneste. Jeg ønsker dig held og lykke og håber, at problemet vil blive løst til din tilfredshed i den nærmeste fremtid.
Thank you for your reply. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal ([email protected]) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Det er Michal igen. Jeg har overtaget denne klage. Jeg har gennemgået sagen, og jeg vil kontakte casinoet for at få belyst sagen nærmere og se, om jeg kan hjælpe på en eller anden måde.
Vi vil gerne invitere BetKudos Casino til at deltage i samtalen.
Kære BetKudos Casino,
Venligst fremsend mig alle beviser, der understøtter de påståede overtrædelser af jeres vilkår og betingelser, som spilleren er anklaget for. I kan sende oplysningerne til mig på [email protected]
Hello andandjonnyx,
It's Michal again. I have taken over this complaint. I have reviewed this case, and I will contact the casino to shed more light on this matter and to see if I can help somehow.
We would like to invite BetKudos Casino to join the conversation.
Dear BetKudos Casino,
Kindly provide me with any evidence supporting the alleged violations of your terms and conditions, of which the player is being accused. You can send the information to me at [email protected]
Vi har anmodet casinoet om at svare på klagen og forlænget tidsfristen med 7 dage. Hvis casinoet ikke svarer inden da, er vi nødt til at lukke klagesagen som "uløst". Uløste klagesager påvirker casinoets rating i negativ retning.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Jeg vil gerne give dig en kort opdatering. Jeg har endnu ikke modtaget svar fra BetKudos-teamet, men jeg vil kontakte dem igen snarest.
Angående den e-mail, du modtog fra casinoet – selvom deres argumentation, "et vedvarende mønster af spil med lav volatilitet og høj RTP designet til at gennemføre rollover med minimal risiko", kan være nogenlunde forståelig, og regler, der anser sådant spil for ikke tilladt, faktisk kan findes på mange casinoer, anser vi hos Casino Guru ikke denne begrundelse for at være helt fair. Casinoet kan relativt nemt forhindre denne situation ved kun at tillade bestemte spilleautomater at blive spillet i den aktive bonusperiode.
Når jeg modtager et svar fra BetKudos-teamet, vil jeg dele vores perspektiv med dem og bestræbe mig på at fremme en retfærdig vurdering af din sag.
Dear andandjonnyx,
I would like to provide you with a brief update. I have not yet received a response from the BetKudos team, but I will follow up with them again shortly.
Regarding the email you received from the casino — while their reasoning, "sustained pattern of low-volatility, high-RTP play designed to complete rollover with minimal risk," may be somewhat understandable, and rules that consider such gameplay as not allowed can indeed be found at many casinos, we at Casino Guru do not consider this justification to be entirely fair. The casino can relatively easily prevent this situation by allowing only specific slot games to be played during the active bonus period.
Once I receive a response from the BetKudos team, I will share our perspective with them and aim to facilitate a fair assessment of your case.
Jeg har forsøgt at kontakte casinoet gentagne gange, men uden held. Jeg er bange for, at der ikke er meget, der kan opnås uden samarbejde fra deres side. Jeg vil markere klagen som "uløst" i vores system. Jeg forstår, at dette ikke er en tilfredsstillende løsning på dit problem. Faldet i vurderingen forårsaget af uløste klager kan dog være med til at ændre casinoets tilgang. Hvis casinoet beslutter at reagere, vil vi genåbne klagen, og du vil blive underrettet via e-mail.
Hvis du ønsker at forfølge din klage yderligere, kan du indsende den til Curaçao Gaming Authority (CGA) via e-mail til [email protected] Selvom CGA ikke officielt håndterer tvister mellem spillere og spiludbydere, kan de muligvis stadig hjælpe, så det er et forsøg værd.
Lad mig venligst vide om og hvordan de reagerede kl. [email protected] hvis du prøver denne mulighed.
Jeg beklager, at jeg ikke kunne være til mere hjælp ved denne lejlighed.
Med venlig hilsen,
Mikal
Casino Guru
Dear andandjonnyx,
I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly but have had no success. I’m afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from their side. I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints might help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email.
Should you want to pursue your complaint further, you can submit it to the Curaçao Gaming Authority (CGA) via email to [email protected]. Although the CGA does not officially handle disputes between players and gaming operators, they still might be able to help, so it is worth a try.
Please let me know if and how they responded at [email protected] if you try this option.
I am sorry I could not be of more help on this occasion.
Vi har genåbnet denne klage efter kontakt fra BetKudos Casino-teamet og fremkomsten af nye oplysninger vedrørende denne sag. Vi vil gerne give denne sag en ny mulighed for at blive gennemgået og hjælpe begge parter med at nå frem til en løsning, hvis det er muligt.
We have reopened this complaint following contact from the BetKudos Casino team and the emergence of new information regarding this matter. We would like to give this case another opportunity to be reviewed and to assist both parties in reaching a resolution, if possible.
Jeg har modtaget information fra casinoteamet om, at I midlertidigt har oplevet/udnyttet en systemfejlkonfiguration i gratis spins-kampagnen, hvor indsatsen/pr. spin-værdien blev vist forkert og krediteret/beregnet til et meget højere beløb, end den burde have været. Derfor stammer de gevinster, I gør krav på, fra denne fejl. Kan I venligst kommentere dette? Lagde I ikke mærke til den ret betydelige forskel i indsatsen/pr. spin-beløbet sammenlignet med det andet tilfælde med gratis spin-bonusspil?
Dear andandjonnyx,
I have received information from the casino team that you have temporarily encountered/taken advantage of a system misconfiguration in the free spins promotion, where the bet/per spin value was incorrectly displayed and credited/calculated at a much higher amount than it should have been. Consequently, the winnings you are claiming stem from this error. Can you please comment on this? Did you not notice the rather significant difference in the bet/per spin amount compared to the other instance with the free spin bonus play?
Jeg bruger ikke gratis spin-bonusser i første omgang.
Bonussen jeg brugte var en, hvor "et vist beløb i kontanter tildeles, når du satser et fast beløb med rigtige penge."
Selvom der ikke var problemer med selve indsatsbeløbet, centrerer klagen sig om, at casinoet pludselig satte omsætningskravene til ikke at fortsætte.
I don't use free spin bonuses in the first place.
The bonus I used was one where "a certain amount of cash is awarded when you wager a set amount with real money."
While there were no issues with the bet amount itself, the complaint centers on the casino suddenly setting the wagering requirements to not progress wi
Kan du venligst bekræfte, at du har gjort krav på disse velkomstpakkebonusser?
Hvis ikke, hvilke bonusser har du gjort krav på? Hvor meget kunne du vinde fra den første bonus (inklusive gratis spins)? Var gratis spins inkluderet i den anden bonus, du gjorde krav på og spillede med?
Desuden, hvordan er du nået frem til det omstridte beløb på $650, i betragtning af at det ser ud til at være et bonusbeløb, og det ser ud til, at omsætningskravene for denne bonus endnu ikke er opfyldt?
Dear andandjonnyx,
Can you please confirm that you claimed these welcome package bonuses?
If not, which bonuses have you claimed? How much were you able to win from the first bonus (including free spins)? Were free spins included in the second bonus you claimed and played with?
Furthermore, how did you arrive at the disputed amount of $650, considering that it appears to be a bonus amount, and it seems that the wagering requirements for this bonus have not yet been met?
Jeg har modtaget velkomstpakken, men jeg har ikke brugt de gratis spins.
Bonusens omsætningskrav var oprindeligt blevet opfyldt, hvilket gjorde det muligt at modtage pengene. Det blev dog opdaget, at casinoet havde ændret bonusens omsætningskrav uden at underrette brugeren, hvilket forhindrede fremskridt.
Derudover forbød casinoet efterfølgende mit spil, hvilket gjorde det fysisk umuligt at opfylde kravene.
Hvis casinoets argument var acceptabelt, ville det betyde, at casinoerne kunne forbyde spil, når omsætningskravene når 99%, og dermed undgå bonusudbetalinger.
I betragtning af at dette casinos bonussystem kræver omsætning med rigtige penge for at låse det op, har jeg mistet både mine rigtige penge og de bonuspenge, jeg burde have modtaget, på grund af casinoets forseelse.
I received the welcome package, but I haven't used the free spins.
The bonus wagering requirements had originally been met, making it possible to receive the cash. However, it was discovered that the casino had changed the bonus wagering requirements without notifying the user, preventing progress.
Furthermore, the casino subsequently banned my gameplay, making it physically impossible to meet the requirements.
If the casino's argument were acceptable, it would mean casinos could ban gameplay once wagering requirements reach 99%, thereby avoiding bonus payouts.
Considering that this casino's bonus system requires wagering with real money to unlock it, I have lost both my real money and the bonus money I should have received due to the casino's misconduct.
Bekræft venligst, hvor meget du kunne vinde fra den første bonus (inklusive gratis spins)? Var gratis spins inkluderet i den anden bonus, du gjorde krav på og spillede med?
Dear andandjonnyx,
Please confirm how much you were able to win from the first bonus (including free spins)? Were free spins included in the second bonus you claimed and played with?
Jeg har ikke brugt de gratis spins. De er ubrugte.
Jeg indbetalte $500, og en bonus på $650 blev sat på pause.
Jeg spillede spilleautomater for at få udbetalt de $650, men casinoet havde sat omsætningskravene til at stoppe midtvejs uden at underrette brugeren. Derudover forbød de efterfølgende mit spil, hvilket reelt konfiskerede bonussen. Dette er den foreliggende klage.
De gratis spins var irrelevante fra starten.
I haven't used the free spins. They're unused.
I deposited $500, and a $650 bonus was placed on hold.
I played slot games to cash out that $650, but the casino had set the wagering requirements to stop progressing midway without notifying the user. Furthermore, they subsequently banned my gameplay, effectively confiscating the bonus. This is the complaint at hand.
Jeg vil gerne minde dig om, at mine spørgsmål stadig er ubesvarede, og jeg ville sætte pris på dit klare svar. Jeg forstår dine bekymringer vedrørende ændringen i bidraget til omsætningen, mens du havde en aktiv bonus. Men som du måske er klar over, gælder reglerne knyttet til bonussen i hele bonussens aktiveringsperiode, inklusive gratis spins, uanset om de er blevet brugt eller ej.
Som nævnt ovenfor har jeg modtaget information fra casinoteamet om, at du midlertidigt har oplevet/udnyttet en systemfejlkonfiguration i gratis spins-kampagnen, hvor indsatsen/pr. spin-værdien blev vist forkert og krediteret/beregnet til et meget højere beløb, end den burde have været. Derfor vil jeg gerne bede dig endnu en gang om at bekræfte det beløb, du var i stand til at vinde fra den første bonus, inklusive eventuelle gratis spins. Kan du desuden præcisere, om gratis spins var en del af den anden bonus, du gjorde krav på?
Eller påstår du, at du ikke har brugt de gratis spins i nogen af de bonusser, du har gjort krav på?
Dear andandjonnyx,
I would like to kindly remind you that my questions remain unanswered, and I would appreciate your clear response. I understand your concerns regarding the change in contribution to the wagering while you had an active bonus. However, as you may be aware, the rules associated with the bonus are applicable throughout the entire duration of the bonus's activity, including the free spins, regardless of whether they have been currently utilised or not.
As I mentioned above, I have received information from the casino team that you have temporarily encountered/taken advantage of a system misconfiguration in the free spins promotion, where the bet/per spin value was incorrectly displayed and credited/calculated at a much higher amount than it should have been. Therefore, I would like to ask you once more to confirm the amount you were able to win from the first bonus, including any free spins. Furthermore, could you please clarify if free spins were part of the second bonus you claimed?
Or do you claim that you have not used the free spins in any of the bonuses you claimed?
Grundlæggende set behandles gevinster fra gratis spins som bonusser, så selvom beløbet er højere, burde det ikke gavne mig.
Som bevis fremsender jeg min bonushistorik.
I starten indbetalte jeg $100 for at kontrollere, om dette casino kunne behandle ind- og udbetalinger normalt, og modtog en bonus på $100.
Efterfølgende indbetalinger blev foretaget for at gøre krav på 130% bonussen, hvilket resulterede i bonusser på $650, $130, $260 og $260. Casinoet stoppede dog omsætningskravene, hvilket gjorde dem alle umulige at opfylde.
Da jeg ikke brugte de gratis spins, burde de være udløbet og afsluttet.
Hvis jeg havde brugt de gratis spins, burde gevinsterne fra dem findes i bonushistorikken.
Yes. I should not have used any free spins.
This applies to both the first and second instances.
Fundamentally, winnings from free spins are treated as bonuses, so even if the amount is higher, it should not benefit me.
As evidence, I submit my bonus history.
Initially, I deposited $100 to verify whether this casino could process deposits and withdrawals normally, and received a $100 bonus.
Subsequent deposits were made to claim the 130% bonus, resulting in bonuses of $650, $130, $260, and $260. However, the casino halted the wagering requirements, rendering all of them impossible to fulfill.
Since I did not use the free spins, they should have expired and ended.
If I had used the free spins, the winnings from them should exist in the bonus history.
Du har endnu ikke givet et klart svar på min tidligere forespørgsel. Jeg beder dig venligst endnu en gang om at bekræfte det samlede beløb, du vandt fra den første bonus, inklusive eventuelle gevinster fra gratis spins. Har du hævet disse gevinster?
Jeg har endnu engang kontaktet casinoteamet for at besvare de yderligere spørgsmål, der er blevet rejst. Jeg har allerede inviteret BetKudos-teamet til at deltage i denne diskussion, da jeg mener, det ville være gavnligt for dem at afklare situationen direkte; de har dog endnu ikke svaret på dette.
Dear andandjonnyx,
You have not yet provided a clear response to my previous inquiry. I kindly ask you once again to confirm the total amount you won from the first bonus, including any winnings derived from free spins. Have you withdrawn these winnings?
I have once again contacted the casino team to address the additional inquiries that have been raised. I have already extended an invitation to the BetKudos team to participate in this discussion, as I think it would be beneficial for them to clarify the situation directly; however, they have not yet replied to this.
Hvis jeg forstår det korrekt, vandt du og udbetalte i alt 1300 (650+130+260+260 = 1300) fra fire forskellige bonusser, eller stammer dette beløb udelukkende fra den første bonus?
Hvis det virkelig var fra den første bonus, kan du så forklare, hvorfor der er fire separate beløb?
Dear andandjonnyx,
If I understand this correctly, did you win and withdraw a total of 1300 (650+130+260+260 = 1300) from four different bonuses, or was this amount derived solely from the first bonus?
If it was indeed from the first bonus, could you please clarify why there are four separate amounts?
Det ville i høj grad hjælpe mig med at forstå situationen bedre, hvis du ville besvare mine spørgsmål tydeligt. Så du siger, at du endnu IKKE har hævet nogen gevinster fra BetKudos casino?
Da problemet med "ændringen i bidrag til omsætningen" opstod med din anden bonus, hvordan var dit spil med den første bonus? Spillede du på samme måde som med den anden bonus? Har du vundet noget med den første bonus?
Dear andandjonnyx,
It would greatly help me understand the situation better if you would clearly answer my questions. So are you saying that you have NOT yet withdrawn any winnings from BetKudos casino?
As the issue with "the change in contribution to the wagering" arose with your second bonus, how was your gameplay with the first bonus? Did you play the same way as with the second bonus? Have you won anything with the first bonus?
Du har endnu engang IKKE svaret klart på alle mine spørgsmål. Jeg beder dig venligst om at besvare dem klart.
Spillede du på samme måde med den anden bonus, som du gjorde med den første bonus? Har du vundet noget med den første bonus? Hvis ja, var du i stand til at hæve disse gevinster?
Dear andandjonnyx,
You have once again NOT responded clearly to all my questions. I kindly request that you clearly answer them.
Did you play in the same way with the second bonus as you did with the first bonus? Have you won anything with the first bonus? If so, were you able to withdraw these winnings?
Okay, andandjonnyx, jeg tror, det er alt, jeg behøver fra din side lige nu. Oplysningerne og, endnu vigtigere, de beviser, jeg har modtaget indtil videre, stemmer ikke overens med nogle af dine udsagn. Jeg vil nu vente på casinoets svar for at give de yderligere oplysninger og den nødvendige dokumentation til en klarere og mere præcis vurdering af situationen.
Alright, andandjonnyx, I think that's all I need from your side at the moment. The information and, more importantly, the evidence I’ve received so far do not align with some of your statements. I will now wait for the casino’s response to provide the additional information and supporting evidence required for a clearer and more accurate evaluation of the situation.
Desværre er casinoteamet holdt op med at svare på mine e-mails. Som jeg har nævnt før, har jeg modtaget bevis for, at du har udnyttet en systemfejlkonfiguration i gratis spins-kampagnen, hvor indsatsen pr. spin blev vist forkert og krediteret/beregnet til et betydeligt højere beløb, end det burde have været. Casinoteamet har også bemærket, at de kender dig, og at du allerede er blevet sortlistet i flere casinoer for angiveligt at have udnyttet system- eller spilsårbarheder. Selvom vi af erfaring er klar over, at du ofte befinder dig i tvivlsomme situationer, er vi som en uafhængig enhed dedikeret til retfærdighed og gennemsigtighed af den opfattelse, at enhver påstand om en regelovertrædelse skal underbygges af rimelige og verificerbare beviser. Desværre var dette ikke tilfældet i denne sag, og sådanne beviser er ikke blevet fremlagt i denne sag. I betragtning af manglen på tilstrækkelige beviser og det faktum, at casinoteamet er holdt op med at svare, har vi intet andet valg end at lukke denne sag igen som uafklaret.
Hvis casinoet beslutter at reagere og samarbejde på passende vis, vil vi genoptage klagen, og du vil blive underrettet via e-mail.
Jeg beklager, at jeg ikke kunne være til yderligere hjælp.
Dear andandjonnyx,
Unfortunately, the casino team has ceased to respond to my emails. As I have mentioned before, I have received proof that you have taken advantage of a system misconfiguration in the free spins promotion, where the bet per spin value was inaccurately displayed and credited/calculated at a significantly higher amount than it should have been. The casino team has also noted that you are familiar to them and that you have already been blacklisted in several casinos for allegedly exploiting system or game vulnerabilities. While we are aware from experience that you frequently find yourself in questionable situations, we, as an independent entity dedicated to fairness and transparency, hold the belief that any claim of a rule violation must be substantiated by reasonable and verifiable evidence. Unfortunately, this was not the situation in this instance, and such evidence has not been provided in this case. Given the lack of sufficient proof and the fact that the casino team has stopped responding, we have no choice but to close this case again as unresolved.
If the casino decides to react and cooperate appropriately, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email.
I am sorry I could not be of any further help.
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