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Kære Ayoubm,
Jeg vil gerne give dig en mere detaljeret opdatering vedrørende min nuværende vurdering, da jeg nu har modtaget og gennemgået betydeligt flere oplysninger fra casinoet.
Jeg forstår de argumenter, du har fremført, især din holdning om, at saldoen blev behandlet som rigtige penge, at casinoets support tidligere omtalte pengene som VIP Live Cashback, og at casinoet oprindeligt gav en anden forklaring vedrørende gevinsternes kilde.
Jeg har taget alle disse punkter i betragtning. Men efter at have modtaget og gennemgået casinoets yderligere dokumentation, ser jeg situationen anderledes.
Casinoet har givet mig detaljerede optegnelser fra sine interne systemer, herunder spillogge, indsatshistorik, bonushistorik, saldooptegnelser, bonusrelaterede transaktioner og transaktionshistorik. Jeg har gennemgået disse optegnelser sammen med de forklaringer, som casinoet har givet, og de oplysninger og skærmbilleder, du har indsendt i klagen.
Baseret på disse optegnelser var din sidste indbetaling med rigtige penge 8.000 NOK den 16. maj 2026 kl. 16:07 , og denne indbetaling gik efterfølgende tabt. Efter at indbetalingen var tabt, blev spillet vedrørende de omstridte gevinster udført uden yderligere indbetaling med rigtige penge.
Optegnelserne viser, at flere reklamekilder var involveret i denne periode, herunder:
- Puslespilspræmie 3;
- Puslespilspræmie 5;
- Puslespilspræmie 1;
- VIP 10% cashback; og
- Bonusbutik: Resultater af gratis spins.
Derfor har jeg, baseret på de optegnelser, jeg har gennemgået, ikke i øjeblikket grundlag for at konkludere, at de omstridte gevinster udelukkende blev genereret fra en ubegrænset saldo af rigtige penge, som du har argumenteret for.
Jeg vil også gerne kommentere dit argument vedrørende de store indsatser, du var i stand til at placere.
Det faktum, at casinoets system tillod dig at placere væddemål med høj værdi, bekræfter ikke i sig selv, at de midler, der blev satset, var ubegrænsede gevinster med rigtige penge. I henhold til de gældende casinovilkår er væddemål foretaget med bonusmidler ikke underlagt en specifik maksimal indsatsgrænse. Derfor betyder det faktum, at du var i stand til at placere væddemål af betydelig værdi, ikke nødvendigvis, at de underliggende midler blev behandlet som ubegrænsede gevinster med rigtige penge.
Med andre ord betyder det ikke automatisk, at det at kunne risikere et stort beløb under spillet, at beløbet var ubegrænsede kontanter. Det relevante spørgsmål er, hvad den underliggende saldo bestod af, og under hvilke betingelser disse midler blev fremskaffet.
Der er også et vigtigt punkt vedrørende den måde, hvorpå bonusrelaterede maksimale udbetalingsrestriktioner normalt håndteres.
Det er ret almindeligt i branchen, at maksimale udbetalingsrestriktioner eller saldo-reduktioner forbundet med salgsfremmende midler anvendes, når en spiller anmoder om en udbetaling, snarere end kontinuerligt under selve spillet. Jeg forstår, at dette kan virke kontraintuitivt fra en spillers perspektiv, især når saldoen, der vises på kontoen, fortsætter med at stige under spillet.
I dette særlige tilfælde forklarede casinoet mig, at spillesessionen anses for at være afsluttet, når spilleren indsender en udbetalingsanmodning, hvorefter de gældende bonusbegrænsninger anvendes, og det maksimale udbetalingsbeløb fastsættes.
Men selv hvis vi skulle se bort fra denne særlige tekniske mekanisme, mener jeg ikke, at det ændrer sagens grundlæggende pointe.
Det centrale spørgsmål er , hvor de omstridte gevinster kom fra .
Baseret på de spil-, bonus- og saldooplysninger, jeg har gennemgået, blev de omstridte gevinster på cirka 300.000 NOK genereret, efter at din sidste indbetaling på 8.000 NOK allerede var tabt, og mens du spillede med reklamemidler leveret af casinoet.
Derfor tyder de beviser, jeg har til rådighed i øjeblikket, ikke på, at disse gevinster blev genereret fra en resterende ubegrænset indbetalingssaldo med rigtige penge. De ser snarere ud til at være genereret fra reklamemidler.
Denne sondring er vigtig, fordi hvor gevinster genereres fra salgsfremmende midler, forbliver de gældende bonusbetingelser relevante for disse gevinster. Det faktum, at systemet muligvis har tilladt spilleren at fortsætte med at spille med den fulde viste saldo, konverterer ikke automatisk salgsfremmende gevinster til ubegrænsede pengemidler.
Ligeledes er det faktum, at udbetalingsanmodninger kan være blevet indsendt eller midlertidigt accepteret af systemet, ikke i sig selv et bevis for, at den resulterende saldo ikke længere var underlagt de gældende bonusbetingelser. Jeg har ikke set bevis for, at udbetalingsanmodningerne på 25.000 NOK og 15.000 NOK faktisk blev udbetalt til dig før det efterfølgende spil.
Derfor anser jeg ikke disse udbetalingsanmodninger for tilstrækkelige til at fastslå, at hele saldoen var blevet ubegrænsede midler i realtid.
Jeg vil også gerne adressere casinoets skiftende forklaring, da jeg forstår, hvorfor dette er en af dine største bekymringer.
Jeg anerkender, at casinoets oprindelige forklaring vedrørende gevinsternes oprindelse ikke var identisk med dets senere forklaring. Jeg rejste specifikt dette problem over for casinoet og anmodede om yderligere dokumentation for at afklare situationen.
Casinoet foretog efterfølgende en yderligere gennemgang af det relevante spil og bonushistorik. Efter denne gennemgang forklarede de, at gevinsterne stammede fra flere salgsfremmende kilder, og at den oprindelige maksimale udbetalingsberegning ikke havde inkluderet alle relevante bonusbidrag.
Det er vigtigt at bemærke, at casinoet anerkendte denne beregningsfejl og efterfølgende krediterede dig med yderligere 760 NOK . Ifølge deres nuværende beregning er det endelige maksimale udbetalingsbeløb 8.293 NOK .
Jeg vil også gerne gøre det klart, at min vurdering ikke blot er baseret på casinoets udtalelser. Jeg anmodede specifikt om de underliggende optegnelser, fordi jeg ønskede at kunne verificere hændelsesforløbet og oprindelsen af den omstridte saldo uafhængigt. Jeg har nu haft mulighed for at sammenligne disse optegnelser med de oplysninger og skærmbilleder, du har givet.
En anden vigtig del af min vurdering har været gennemsigtigheden af de gældende bonusmekanismer.
Dette var en af hovedårsagerne til, at jeg ikke straks accepterede casinoets oprindelige forklaring. Jeg anmodede om den komplette transaktionshistorik, bonushistorik og de gældende bonusvilkår for de relevante bonusser fra den 5. maj 2026 og fremefter , så jeg uafhængigt kunne vurdere, om den maksimale udbetalingsregel faktisk var gældende, og hvordan de forskellige salgsfremmende midler bidrog til den endelige saldo.
Fraværet af en advarsel eller en automatisk begrænsning under spillet betyder ikke nødvendigvis, at den gældende regel for maksimal udbetaling ophørte med at gælde. Ligeledes tilsidesætter det faktum, at en saldo blev vist eller midlertidigt håndteret af systemet på en bestemt måde, ikke automatisk de underliggende bonusbetingelser.
På nuværende tidspunkt anser jeg derfor kilden til de omstridte gevinster og de bonusbetingelser, der er knyttet til disse midler, for at være det vigtigste spørgsmål, snarere end blot hvordan saldoen blev vist under spillet.
Jeg beder dog stadig casinoet om en sidste afklaring, før jeg formelt afslutter klagen. Jeg har anmodet om en detaljeret trin-for-trin beregning, der viser præcis, hvordan casinoet er nået frem til det endelige maksimale udbetalingsbeløb på 8.293 NOK , herunder hvordan de individuelle bonusser og deres respektive maksimale udbetalingsregler blev taget i betragtning, og hvordan de var korreleret med spillerens spil og bonushistorik.
Dette er vigtigt, fordi jeg vil sikre mig, at det endelige beløb er korrekt beregnet og stemmer overens med de optegnelser, jeg har gennemgået, før jeg træffer min endelige afgørelse.
Samtidig vil jeg gerne være åben over for jer om, at min nuværende vurdering, baseret på alt, hvad jeg har gennemgået indtil videre, er, at casinoets holdning i princippet er berettiget.
De beviser, jeg har til rådighed i øjeblikket, tyder på, at de omstridte gevinster blev genereret fra reklamemidler snarere end fra en ubegrænset indbetalingssaldo med rigtige penge. Følgelig kan de gældende bonusbetingelser anvendes på disse gevinster.
Det resterende spørgsmål er primært, om casinoets endelige beregning på 8.293 NOK er korrekt udført. Når jeg modtager og verificerer denne endelige beregning, forventer jeg at være i stand til at afslutte klagen.
Jeg ville gerne forklare min nuværende holdning på forhånd, så du forstår, hvorfor de tilgængelige beviser har ført mig i denne retning, og hvorfor jeg, medmindre den endelige beregning afslører noget uventet, i øjeblikket forventer, at klagen afsluttes i casinoets favør.
Kære N1 Bet Casino,
Tak for din omfattende dokumentation og for dit fortsatte samarbejde i forbindelse med efterforskningen.
Som nævnt separat, har jeg anmodet om en sidste afklaring vedrørende den detaljerede beregning af det maksimale udbetalingsbeløb på 8.293 NOK via post. N1 Bet Casino, hvis det er muligt, ville jeg sætte pris på, hvis I kunne give den endelige beregning og forklaring direkte i klagetråden, så spilleren også kan gennemgå den transparent. Når dette er afklaret, burde jeg have alt nødvendigt for at gennemføre min endelige vurdering.
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Hello everyone,
thank you both for your continued cooperation and patience throughout this investigation.
Dear Ayoubm,
I would like to provide you with a more detailed update regarding my current assessment, as I have now received and reviewed substantially more information from the casino.
I understand the arguments you have raised, particularly your position that the balance was treated as real money, that the casino's support previously referred to the funds as VIP Live Cashback, and that the casino initially provided a different explanation regarding the source of the winnings.
I have taken all of these points into consideration. However, after receiving and reviewing the casino's additional documentation, I currently see the situation differently.
The casino has provided me with detailed records from its internal systems, including the gameplay logs, bets history, bonus history, balance records, bonus-related transactions, and transaction history. I have reviewed these records together with the explanations provided by the casino and the information and screenshots you submitted in the complaint.
Based on these records, your last real-money deposit was 8,000 NOK on 16 May 2026 at 16:07, and this deposit was subsequently lost. After that deposit was lost, the gameplay relevant to the disputed winnings was carried out without another real-money deposit.
The records show several promotional sources being involved during this period, including:
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- Puzzle Prize 1;
- VIP 10% Cashback; and
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Therefore, based on the records I have reviewed, I do not currently have grounds to conclude that the disputed winnings were generated solely from an unrestricted real-money balance, as you have argued.
I would also like to address your argument regarding the large bets you were able to place.
The fact that the casino's system allowed you to place high-value bets does not, by itself, establish that the funds being wagered were unrestricted real-money funds. According to the applicable casino terms, bets made with bonus funds are not subject to a specific maximum bet limit. Therefore, the fact that you were able to place bets of significant value does not necessarily mean that the underlying funds were treated as unrestricted real-money winnings.
In other words, being able to risk a large amount during gameplay does not automatically mean that the amount was unrestricted cash. The relevant question is what the underlying balance consisted of and under which conditions those funds were obtained.
There is also an important point regarding the way bonus-related maximum withdrawal restrictions are normally handled.
It is fairly common in the industry for maximum withdrawal restrictions or balance reductions connected to promotional funds to be applied when a player requests a withdrawal, rather than continuously during gameplay itself. I understand that this may seem counterintuitive from a player's perspective, particularly when the balance displayed in the account continues to increase during gameplay.
In this particular case, the casino explained to me that the gaming session is considered to end when the player submits a withdrawal request, at which point the applicable bonus restrictions are applied and the maximum withdrawable amount is determined.
However, even if we were to put this particular technical mechanism aside, I do not believe it changes the fundamental point of the case.
The key question is where the disputed winnings came from.
Based on the gameplay, bonus and balance records I have reviewed, the approximately 300,000 NOK in disputed winnings were generated after your last real-money deposit of 8,000 NOK had already been lost and while you were playing with promotional funds provided by the casino.
Therefore, the evidence currently available to me does not indicate that these winnings were generated from a remaining unrestricted real-money deposit balance. Rather, they appear to have been generated from promotional funds.
This distinction is important because, where winnings are generated from promotional funds, the applicable bonus conditions remain relevant to those winnings. The fact that the system may have allowed the player to continue playing with the full displayed balance does not automatically convert promotional winnings into unrestricted real-money funds.
Similarly, the fact that withdrawal requests may have been submitted or temporarily accepted by the system does not, on its own, establish that the resulting balance was no longer subject to the applicable bonus conditions. I have not seen evidence that the 25,000 NOK and 15,000 NOK withdrawal requests were actually paid out to you before the subsequent gameplay.
Therefore, I do not consider those withdrawal requests sufficient to establish that the entire balance had become unrestricted real-money funds.
I also want to address the casino's changing explanation, as I understand why this is one of your main concerns.
I acknowledge that the casino's initial explanation concerning the source of the winnings was not identical to its later explanation. I specifically raised this issue with the casino and requested additional documentation to clarify the situation.
The casino subsequently conducted an additional review of the relevant gameplay and bonus history. Following this review, it explained that the winnings originated from multiple promotional sources and that the initial maximum withdrawal calculation had not included all relevant bonus contributions.
Importantly, the casino acknowledged this calculation error and subsequently credited you with an additional 760 NOK. According to its current calculation, the final maximum withdrawal amount is 8,293 NOK.
I also want to make clear that my assessment is not based merely on the casino's statements. I specifically requested the underlying records because I wanted to independently verify the sequence of events and the origin of the disputed balance. I have now had the opportunity to compare these records with the information and screenshots you provided.
Another important part of my assessment has been the transparency of the applicable bonus mechanics.
This was one of the main reasons why I did not immediately accept the casino's initial explanation. I requested the complete transaction history, bonus history, and the applicable Bonus Terms for the relevant bonuses from 5 May 2026 onwards, so that I could independently assess whether the maximum withdrawal rule was actually applicable and how the different promotional funds contributed to the final balance.
The absence of a warning or an automatic restriction during gameplay does not necessarily mean that the applicable maximum withdrawal rule ceased to apply. Likewise, the fact that a balance was displayed or temporarily handled by the system in a particular way does not automatically override the underlying bonus conditions.
At this stage, I therefore consider the more important issue to be the source of the disputed winnings and the bonus conditions attached to those funds, rather than simply how the balance was displayed during gameplay.
I am, however, still asking the casino for one final clarification before formally concluding the complaint. I have requested a detailed step-by-step calculation showing exactly how the casino arrived at the final 8,293 NOK maximum withdrawal amount, including how the individual bonuses and their respective maximum withdrawal rules were taken into account and how they were correlated with the player's gameplay and bonus history.
This is important because I want to make sure that the final amount is correctly calculated and corresponds with the records I have reviewed before issuing my final decision.
At the same time, I want to be transparent with you that, based on everything I have reviewed so far, my current assessment is that the casino's position is justified in principle.
The evidence currently available to me indicates that the disputed winnings were generated from promotional funds rather than from an unrestricted real-money deposit balance. Consequently, the applicable bonus conditions can be applied to those winnings.
The remaining question is primarily whether the casino's final calculation of 8,293 NOK has been correctly performed. Once I receive and verify this final calculation, I expect to be in a position to conclude the complaint.
I wanted to explain my current position in advance so that you understand why the available evidence has led me in this direction and why, unless the final calculation reveals something unexpected, I currently expect the complaint to be concluded in the casino's favor.
Dear N1 Bet Casino,
thank you for providing the extensive documentation and for continuing to cooperate with the investigation.
As mentioned separately, I have requested one final clarification regarding the detailed calculation of the 8,293 NOK maximum withdrawal amount by mail. N1 Bet Casino, if possible, I would appreciate it if you could provide the final calculation and explanation directly in the complaint thread, so that the player can also review it transparently. Once this is clarified, I should have everything necessary to complete my final assessment.
Thank you both for your continued cooperation.
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