Bruno Casino – generel debat

Juniorkompetent

1 år siden

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i played here today 1800€ it was impossible to win on the real live table grand casino .i see 3 videos in 1 spin 21.2 and 25 with different dealers.so evolution gaming. is offering scam games and call it live .i know what lag looks like .this was int .the numbers on the winning numbers board are seperated by 15 numbers between.so how is it possible casinos know about this provider is committing fraud but offer this to steal their customers ."we are licensed casino" i dont care .i dont think those license count for the game .disgusting tricks makes you hate yourself for ever begin to gamble online .really it kills some ones caracter .you know you are stolen but cant do anything about it .evolution gaming should be really investigated along with the casinos hiring there games .now i know why never show players or dealers on that table so they can copy and paste a video with losing numbers to steal your balance .i thought about it,evolution all their games are rng manipulated how is it possible to offer dual tables with out manipulation ?the company simple do not pay at all .that is why they are always listed on first at every casino site .free money .better donating to good cause then supporting criminal gangs .the casino is 100% responsible for my loss and they must refund my 1800€ .i dont care they are licensed .the area were they are lisenced shows what kind of people they are .

Social Media & Community Specialist

1 år siden

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Hello,

I'm sorry you lose. If you have those doubts, try contacting Evolution. Gather proofs, and screenshot videos, and ask the game provider directly.

Juniorkompetent

1 år siden

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Evolution is one of the companies with 500 millions anual revenue with no phone or email to contact .very shady company.they have contact dources but only for third party.the customer (player)can only speak to them by a chat .they hide behind a chat in the backround like thieves in the night.i always wonderd why they are there they never help and they are very strickt in blokking the chat if they dont like your comments .they are not transparant at all .that is why they can keep going ripping off players .

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1 år siden

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I can only repeat that you have a chance to contact the licensing authority, and let them check it, I'd say.

Mester

1 år siden

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Jeg har heldigvis aldrig haft problemer!

Bekræftelse og udbetaling altid super hurtig. 🙂

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mescaline21

Begynder

1 år siden

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God aften. Jeg har et problem med identifikationen i Bruno casino. Måske kan nogen hjælpe mig. De accepterer heller ikke filerne via e-mail.

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mescaline21

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mescaline21

1 år siden

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Hello,

I'd like to help, but I guess that it would need more details. Do I assume correctly that this casino uses some kind of uploader? If sending documents by email is not an option. 🤔

Kindly let us know what is exactly happening.

Juniorkompetent

1 år siden

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Dutch players who have played on this casino. Report the casino to the kansspelautoriteiten.

They do not have a KSA liscense.

You are obliged to get all your deposits back. They will decline so its important that the KSA will investigate Brunocasino and fine them.

Mester

1 år siden

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Hvorfor skal de straffes med penge?

Sådan er det på de fleste casinoer, men du spiller sikkert oftere 🙂 og når du taber, skriver du ondsindede kommentarer? 😀

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Juniorkompetent

1 år siden

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Yea right thats what I do sign up with many casino's and ask my money back.

Smartass.

I try to help people .. who are addicted and play at these casino's who take advantage of these kind of players. If the casino's have a liscense people who are in the system cant play. But the casinos without a liscense take advantage of the gambling addicts. Thats why I tell everyone report those kind of casino's to the dutch authority. So they will get a fine if they act without a liscense. And the casino will not accept dutch players anymore.

Mester

1 år siden

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Jeg er ikke en smartass, jeg siger bare min mening. 🙂

Der er tusindvis af licenserede kasinoer og alligevel spiller afhængige mennesker der hver dag.

Og når misbrugeren indser, at han ikke kan spille på en bestemt side, vælger han simpelthen et af de andre titusindvis af kasinoer og spiller der.

Jeg er helt enig med dig i, at misbrugere skal hjælpes.

Men sådan hjælper man ikke en misbruger.

Jeg er vokset op på gaden og kender snesevis af misbrugere, som ikke har haft gavn af alle disse terapier.

Tværtimod var nogle meget værre bagefter. Alt var fint i en måned, og så startede alt forfra. Så kom 0815 standardterapien, som du gør med alle, og spillet fortsætter, indtil mange endda tager deres eget liv.

Man behandler dem og så får de fleste tilbagefald igen. Hvorfor? For det handler IKKE om ludomanien i første omgang. Dette er ikke et afhængighedsspil!! Denne person har helt andre psykologiske problemer, såsom at være meget ensom eller ikke føle sig elsket, uden at have nogen til at stå ved siden af ham. Sådanne ting er det, der driver folk ud i afhængighed, desperation efter at leve og afhængighed .. Det er lige meget, om stofmisbruget er spilafhængighed, de vil bare flygte og opbygge en afhængighed, der gør dem mere skade.

Min erfaring er, at disse mennesker mangler kærlighed og ingen terapi, der allerede bruges dagligt som et standardprogram, og de fleste af misbrugerne ser dem allerede som et nummer, og for de fleste bliver det så almindeligt, at de ikke engang beskæftiger sig med det egentlige problem. så undrede jeg mig over hvorfor det ikke virkede

De spiller ikke, fordi de er afhængige af spil. Ligesom stofmisbrugere ikke tager stoffer, fordi de er så glade, og de nyder det.. de tager det som en flugt fra virkeligheden, selvom de fleste af dem ikke vil have tingene, og dagligt fortæller sig selv, at de ønsker at stoppe, men kan ikke, fordi hendes psyke er ødelagt.

Misforstå mig ikke, men denne form for hjælp, der tilbydes den ludoman, er ikke nyttig.

Hvis man virkelig vil hjælpe sådan nogle, koster det mange penge, som de fleste ikke gider have med!!

Det er lige meget, om du er afhængig af gambling eller stoffer, eller hvilken afhængighed du har, bør altid behandles med kærlighed.

Tag 10 misbrugere og sæt dem alle sammen på et dejligt stykke jord med masser af dyr, så de er i naturen og passer på dyrene og kommer ud af denne afhængighed.

Du skal vise dem det smukke og kærligheden og ikke en fortrykt terapi, som du går igennem som et nummer, for det er sådan det er skrevet.

Jeg tror ikke meget på al den hjælp, og jeg mener det ikke på en dårlig måde.

2 af mine venner tog deres eget liv. Den ene var 23 og den anden 28...de har begge været i terapi så ofte, at jeg ikke kan huske hvor ofte.

Intet hjalp. Hvorfor? Fordi de blev mishandlet.

Jeg ved ikke, om du forstår mig, men sådanne problemer kan kun løses med dybtgående og kærlighed.

For det første er misbrugere kun misbrugere, fordi de ikke kan klare livet.

Det er ligesom vores skolesystem. Sæt 40 små energiske væsener i et rum og lær alle 40 det samme, selvom hver af disse individuelle individer har forskellige styrker, og så føler nogle sig dumme, fordi de ikke forstår, hvad de bliver undervist, fordi deres styrker ligger et andet sted.

Sådan er det efter min mening med terapierne.

Alt er blevet så standardiseret gennem årene, at der kun er tal og ingen sjæle.

Det er min mening og det har den altid været.

I'm not a smartass, I'm just stating my opinion. 🙂

There are thousands of licensed casinos and yet addicted people play there every day.

And when the addict realizes that he cannot play on a certain site, he simply chooses one of the other tens of thousands of casinos and plays there.

I totally agree with you that addicts should be helped.

But that's not how you help an addict.

I grew up on the streets and know dozens of addicts who have not benefited from all these therapies.

On the contrary, some were much worse afterwards. Everything was fine for a month and then everything started all over again. Then came the 0815 standard therapy that you do with everyone and the game goes on until many even take their own lives.

You treat them and then most of them relapse again. How come? Because it is NOT about the gambling addiction in the first place. This is not an addiction game!! This person has completely different psychological problems, such as being very lonely or not feeling loved, having no one to stand by him. Such things are what drive people into addiction, desperation to live and addiction .. It doesn't matter whether the drug addiction is game addiction, they just want to flee and build up an addiction that does them more harm.

My experience is that these people lack love and no therapy that is already used daily as a standard program and most of the addicts already see them as a number and for most it becomes so commonplace that they don't even deal with the real problem and then wondering why it didn't work

They don't play because they are addicted to games. Just like drug addicts don't take drugs because they're so happy and they enjoy it.. they take it as a run away from reality even though most of them don't want the stuff and tell themselves on a daily basis that they want to stop but can't because her psyche is broken.

Please don't get me wrong but this kind of help offered to the gambling addict is not helpful.

If you really want to help such people, it costs a lot of money that most people don't want to carry!!

It doesn't matter if you're addicted to gambling or drugs or whatever addiction you have should always be treated with love.

Take 10 addicts and put them all on a nice piece of land with lots of animals so that they are in nature and take care of the animals and get out of this addiction.

You have to show them the beautiful and the love and not a pre-printed therapy that you go through like a number because that's how it's written.

I don't think much of all this help and I don't mean that in a bad way.

2 friends of mine took their own lives. One was 23 and the other 28...they've both been in therapy so often I can't remember how often.

Nothing helped. How come? Because they were mistreated.

I don't know if you understand me, but such problems can only be solved with profundity and love.

In the first place, addicts are only addicts because they can't handle life.

It's like our school system. Put 40 little energetic beings in a room and teach all 40 the same thing although each of these individual individuals have different strengths and then some feel stupid because they don't understand what they are being taught because their strengths lie somewhere else.

That's how it is in my opinion with the therapies.

Everything has been so standardized over the years that there are only numbers and no souls.

It's my opinion and it always has been.

Klugscheißer bin ich keiner ich sage lediglich meine meinung. 🙂

Es gibt tausende casinos die eine Lizenz haben und dennoch spielen dort Süchtige Menschen Tag für tag.

Und wenn der Süchtige merkt das er auf einer bestimmten Seite nicht spielen kann sucht er sich ganz einfach eines der andere zig tausenden von casinos aus und spielt dort.

Ich bin ganz deiner Meinung das man Süchtigen helfen sollte.

Aber so hilft man keinem Süchtigen.

Ich bin auf der Straße aufgewachsen und kenne dutzende Süchtige denen all diese therapien nichts gebracht haben.

Ganz im Gegenteil manche waren danach noch viel schlimmer. 1 Monat war alles gut und danach fing alles wieder von vorne an. Danach kamm wieder die 0815 Standart Therapie die man bei jedem macht und das Spiel geht so lange weiter bis viele sich sogar das Leben nehmen.

Man therapiert sie und danach werden die meisten wieder rückfällig. Wieso? Weil es in erster Linie NICHT um die spielsucht geht. Das ist keine spiel sucht!! Dieser Mensch hat ganz andere psychische Probleme wie zum Beispiel das er sehr einsam ist oder sich nicht geliebt fühlt, Niemanden hat der ihm zur Seite steht.. Solche Dinge sind es die Menschen in die Sucht treiben auf Verzweiflung zum Leben und sich in die Sucht begeben.. Ob das Drogen sucht, spiel sucht ist spielt dabei keine Rolle sie wollen nur flüchten und bauen sich so eine sucht auf die ihnen mehr schadet.

Meine Erfahrung ist diese, das diesen Menschen liebe fehlt und keine Therapie die Tag täglich schon als Standard Programm verwendet wird und die meisten die Süchtigen schon als eine Nummer sehen und es für die meisten schon so alltäglich wird das sie garnicht auf das wirkliche problem eingehen und sich dann wundern wieso es nicht geklappt hat

Sie spielen nicht weil sie spiel süchtig sind. Genausowenig wie Drogen Süchtige Drogen nehmen weil sie so glücklich sind und es ihnen Spaß macht.. sie nehmen es um von der Realität davon zu laufen obwohl die meisten von ihnen dieses Zeug garnicht wollen und sich täglich sagen das sie damit aufhören möchten aber es nicht schaffen weil ihre psyche kaputt ist.

Verstehe mich bitte nicht falsch aber diese Art von Hilfe die den spiel Süchtigen angeboten wird ist nicht hilfreich.

Wenn du solchen Leuten wirklich helfen willst kostet das viel Geld das die meisten nicht tragen wollen!!

Egal ob spiel süchtig oder Drogen süchtig oder welche sucht auch immer sollte mit Liebe therapiert werden.

Man nehme 10 Süchtige und bringe sie alle auf einem schönen Stück Land mit vielen Tieren so das sie in der Natur sind und sich um die Tiere kümmern und so raus aus dieser sucht kommen.

Mann muss ihnen das schöne und die Liebe zeigen und keine vorgedruckte Therapie die man durchgeht wie eine Nummer weil es so geschrieben steht.

Ich halte von all dieser Hilfe nichts und das meine ich nicht böse.

2 Freunde von mir nahmen sich das Leben. Einer war 23 und der andere 28... sie beide waren so oft in Therapie das ich nicht mehr weiß wie oft.

Nichts hat geholfen. Wieso? Weil man sie falsch therapiert hat.

Ich weiß nicht ob man mich versteht aber solche Probleme löst man nur mit tiefgründigkeit und Liebe.

An erster Stelle sind Süchtige nur Süchtig weil sie mit dem Leben nicht klar kommen.

Das ist wie unser Schul System. Man stecke 40 kleine Energie geladene Wesen in einen Raum und bringt allen 40 das selbe bei obwohl jeder dieser einzelnen Individuen verschiedene Stärken haben weswegen sich dann einige dumm fühlen weil sie das was ihnen beigebracht wird nicht verstehen, weil ihre Stärken ganz wo anders liegen.

So ist es meiner Meinung auch mit den therapien.

Alles mit den Jahren schon so standardisiert worden das es nur noch Nummern sind und keine Seelen.

Ist meine Meinung und das war sie schon immer.

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Juniorkompetent

1 år siden

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I agree... and there will be people out there who cheat the system do as you say. Register at casino's and try to get deposit back over and over again.

In the netherlands you have a system. You have to register with Cruks. And that means you can not play online casino anymore or even get in a landbase casino. You are blocked.

Mostly gambling addicts put them self in that system or loved ones can even get them in that system.

The problem with these foreign casino's if they act without a liscense.. the Cruks system will not work. So the addicts can play and get in trouble again. So many casino's without a liscense has blocked dutch IP adresses or blocked the dutch region ! This is very good. But some other casinos like Bruno casino do not. They know many gambling addicts will register, and addicts bring lots of money. So thats business for them. Even they know its illegal to offer games or target dutch players. They dont care... again because of the money they get off the players.

The KSA kansspelautoriteiten... investigates these casino's , and fine them ... thats why im telling people to submit a complaint with the KSA. So these casino's will stop doing this. Profit from these kind of players.

And I have to say there are many casino's who did act .. refunded deposits to players, blocked IP adresses, stop offering netherlands as a registering option. After they were informed that what they were doing was illegal.

I totally agree , addiction what ever kind of addiction is also related to psychic problems. That I cant help with. But I can try to help to stop casino's take profit of these addicts.

Im sorry to hear about your life story and friends. Seems like you know what you are talking about. And ofcourse you can have your opinion. And im just replying you with mine.

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Mester

1 år siden

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Du har fuldstændig ret.

De fleste operatører bekymrer sig kun om pengene.

Af ren grådighed efter penge er de blevet hensynsløse over for mennesker og deres problemer, hvilket jeg absolut ikke kan forstå, for man har brug for penge for at leve, men dette stykke papir skal aldrig stå over mennesker, hvilket det desværre gør i vores tid. .

Det vil desværre altid ske.

Desværre vil der altid være casinoer, der vil tilbyde deres tjenester, fordi mange, mange millioner er på spil.

Desværre kan de fleste mennesker bedre lide penge end medfølelse eller næstekærlighed, selvom det bare er et stykke papir lavet af 🌳.

Personligt er jeg af den opfattelse, at hele vores system bør ændres, og at det sikres, at det forbliver menneskeligt og ikke kapitalistisk.

Penge er den nye tids gud, og nogle mennesker vil desværre altid foretrække penge.

Det sker desværre for mine venner hver dag.

Jeg tror, at hvis dem deroppe virkelig var ligeglade, kunne de ordne det, men penge smager bedre for de fleste..

Jeg håber, at vi en dag lever i en verden, hvor man slet ikke kan blive afhængig ❤️🕊

Jeg ønsker dig fortsat held og lykke og håber, at du kan hjælpe nogle mennesker lidt.

Den eneste nøgle ud af alt dette er kærlighed 🙂 🤜🏻🤛🏾

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Social Media & Community Specialist

1 år siden

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Yea right thats what I do sign up with many casino's and ask my money back.

Smartass.

I try to help people .. who are addicted and play at these casino's who take advantage of these kind of players. If the casino's have a liscense people who are in the system cant play. But the casinos without a liscense take advantage of the gambling addicts. Thats why I tell everyone report those kind of casino's to the dutch authority. So they will get a fine if they act without a liscense. And the casino will not accept dutch players anymore.

1 år siden

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I would not say in general, casinos missing particular licenses are interested in scamming vulnerable players.

Though you are correct, players, on the other hand, share their level of responsibility. So if the casino is not licensed in the country you came from, it's an indicator you should not play there. If you do, you risk that any possible complications will be handled by the licensing authority only, not by your local law.

As a side effect, I feel addicted players always try to find their way to the casino, meaning what would happen if the local restriction settles the same level of protection as how we see that in the UK for instance?

All addicted players would play in casinos with the worst or no license because all the UKGC-licensed casinos can be blocked for them by Gamstop.

So by one click, they can self-exclude themselves from all legitimately licensed casinos in the UK, what options would such players take the moment they feel the need to play?

From my point of view, this whole situation needs a far more think-through solution.

Anyway, have you heard about the Global Self-Exclusion Initiative? I guess you would love the idea (Why the gambling world needs a global self-exclusion scheme

At Casino Guru, we think that the currently available responsible gambling tools offered by online operators do not create an effective barrier between struggling players and opportunities to gamble online.), but the journey has barely just begun.

If you feel the casino has treated you poorly or unfairly, you can always submit another complaint.🙌

Avanceret begynder

1 år siden

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Hi,

i had the same issue and also from the Netherlands. I copied a part of your review and also report them to the KSA.

I have asked for a refund and explained them that is legal what they do here.

Now they suspended my account and telling me that is my own responsibility, but I truly did not know they did not have an lincence. Did you get any feedback from the casino ?

Juniorkompetent

1 år siden

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Yes they hide behind their own T&C and will not refund. Report them to the kansspelautoriteiten.

Avanceret begynder

1 år siden

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Ah so they are ignoring the laws. I just reported them at the kansspelautoriteitein. I will also ask a lawer to look at it.

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