Betalingsformidlere og ansvar

Hvad synes casinofolk?

Der er mange svindelcasinoer, der ikke udbetaler udbetalinger og er passive, blandt andet i forhold til klager fra guruer/klager. Hvad muliggør driften ..... pengemæglere, der samarbejder med casinoet ved at muliggøre indbetalinger ...... for ikke at nævne spiludbydernes moral. Der er grund til at mistænke, at betalingsmæglere og spiludbydere er involveret i kriminel aktivitet. Spil FRA og betalingsbehandling STOP....!

Many times, such sites use fake games, though. Which means that game providers do not even know they use their games, actually. It is really difficult to track them, too.

Spiludgivere burde da vide, hvem spillene er udlejet til.....og for eksempel er det en forbrydelse at bruge falske penge, og straffene er derefter. Romi, hvad synes du om bankernes/betalingsformidlernes ansvar.....de formidler indskud og muliggør driften af ​​svigagtige casinoer og samarbejder måske bevidst...🤔

Well, if it were that easy, it would be great, and no fake games would exist, right?

When it comes to the payment providers, we experienced many times that they didn't even know for what purpose the money was used, you know. I would surely not accuse anyone that they do it on purpose, though.

Hmm, jeg er uenig. Betalingsudbydere ved, hvor indbetalingerne går hen ... og spiludbydere har en stærk juridisk position mod falske spiludbydere.

Hello, let me disagree too. Intermediary banks and payment processors are also part of the chain, so they do not actually know the details. They are only hired to assist with transactions within regulated markets.

There are special companies focusing on high-risk payments—gambling and porn included. Did you know? Casinos may have no idea what the company will list in your banking history once you deposit.

There are rarely such fake game providers the way you suggested; it all works very differently, to be honest. But this issue is something the game providers should explain, not me.

Forenklet sagt: Jeg laver en indbetaling til casino X ved hjælp af Skrill/hurtig betalingsgateway. Casino X og Skrill har en aftale. Jeg vinder 1000e og foretager en udbetaling.....alle betingelser og KYC er opfyldt. Casino X viser sig at være en svindler og udbetaler ikke min udbetaling. Jeg anser Skrill for at være medskyldig ved at muliggøre pengeoverførsler til casino X.

Jeg tolker din udtalelse som "skjult beskyttelse"

Simpelt ... det er kendt, for eksempel gennem adskillige klager til guruen, at casinoet ikke udbetaler gevinster/reagerer ... operationen fortsætter, og for eksempel behandler Visa indbetalinger ... hvilket muliggør aktivitet, der mistænkes for at være svigagtig. Er betalingsudbydere involveret i svindlen?

Well, for me, the most important part is: "The casino turned out to be a scam." How do you describe a scam, for example? Because without context, there is never a "good enough" answer.

And I guess that lawyer would have a completely different opinion on this. I suggest you play only in casinos licensed for your country, because then the system is very easy to navigate. No questions about scams or merchants.

That's the point. A question, if you do not mind: Did you read what Daniel said to players who are free-rolling through "illegal merchants or casino" claims?

"A little warning here for the CG Community:

Casino Guru is an open platform where everyone is free to share their thoughts and opinions. We believe in free speech and try to be as non-restrictive as possible. That said, please remember: just because something is posted on the forum doesn’t mean Casino Guru agrees with it or endorses it in any way.

We’re really happy to see players engaging in conversations, debating respectfully, and having fun doing so! That’s why we created this platform.

However, we’ve noticed a growing trend – not just here, but across other platforms too – where some players, after losing money fairly in a casino, look for ways to get those funds back through their bank or payment provider, often by filing chargebacks or making false claims.

We’d like to warn you: this behaviour is not only unfair – it’s also very risky!

We’ve already seen and heard stories (here and elsewhere) of people who got into serious trouble trying to go down this route – including closed casino accounts across multiple platforms, closed bank accounts, debts, and even lawsuits (attempted fraud). Attempting fraud or misrepresenting the truth to a bank or provider is never a good idea and could have lasting consequences.

So here’s our friendly appeal to all Casino Guru community members:

Stand up against unfair and dishonest casinos.

Use our Complaints Resolution Center if you need help – you don’t have to fight alone.

But please don’t try to get back money you’ve fairly lost. It’s simply not worth the risk.

Thanks for being part of our community – and have a great day!"

Simply put: If you are so concerned about legality, do not play in casinos without a Finnish license, or let a lawyer explain the broad legal context. That's actually a very good idea.

Finland vil tilsyneladende begynde at udstede licenser til online casinoer næste år... og flere nye finske betalingsudbydere er dukket op... Jeg tror, ​​at tingene bliver lettere, når man opererer inden for de finske grænser. Mens vi venter på dette 👍

God artikel! Jeg påstår ikke tab fra betalingsudbydere, men spørgsmålet var, om de er involveret, hvis casinoet viser sig at være svindel. Tab vækker trods alt kun brysthår.

Hey, that's very cool information. Thank you for sharing this. I see that the Finnish government wants to strengthen the whole industry and make it a more responsible and regulated environment. Sounds good. What do you think?

I think I get your point; thank you. I wasn't suggesting anything inappropriate and I appreciate you reading the posts I sent you. 👍

As I just responded to you in the other thread, though, it is just a way to deliver money from A to B. Payment processors are not directly responsible for casinos paying out the money to players, I'm afraid.

However, I understand this need to find someone responsible, but in most cases it starts and ends with casinos. 🙁

Ja, jeg er helt enig 👍. Nye finske betalingsudbydere er kommet til Finland, og tilsyneladende kun dem, der opererer under estiske og MGA-licenser, og når den finske licens åbner, er der grund til at antage, at "spillefeltet" vil udvides.

I believe this is the most consistent model, which many countries have already adopted. Since Curaçao and Anjouan are still primarily focused on paperwork rather than providing any real protection for players and their disputes (my opinion, of course), it remains much "safer" to stick with the local license. Glad to see payment providers joined this model too in Finland.