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112 spins and 0 cent in return

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gbdk

I an just sharing my experience to give you an idea on the games we play and the very nice regulations done on the softwares!


Recap of the situation:


i played 112 spins at €0.10 each.

i received €0.00 in return.

i played Volcano Coin on Tortuga Casino (licensed in Curaçao).


Is this mathematically possible?

Reasonable assumption: win rate = 25%

Even a highly volatile slot often has a win rate per spin of around 20% to 30%, meaning:

1 out of 4 spins gives at least a small win (even €0.02 or a "fake win").


Probability Calculation

If the probability of not winning on a single spin is 75%, then the probability of losing 112 times in a row is:

P=(0.75)112≈2.3×10−14P = (0.75)^{112} \approx 2.3 \times 10^{-14}P=(0.75)112≈2.3×10−14That’s about 1 in 43,689,143,880,000 (roughly 43 trillion).


🧨 Even with a pessimistic estimate?

If we assume a very low win rate of 15% (so a 0.85 chance of losing each spin):

P=(0.85)112≈7.2×10−9P = (0.85)^{112} \approx 7.2 \times 10^{-9}P=(0.85)112≈7.2×10−9That’s about 1 in 138 million.


🎯 Mathematical Conclusion:

Even with a very unfavorable estimate, this outcome is statistically almost impossible on a truly fair slot machine.


what do you guys think of this as it seems these gaming providers are protected by both regulators and casinos!

jimtheglide
9 måneder siden
gbdk

Hmm, that's interesting, do you have a game history where you can see that you really didn't win a penny in those 112 spins? I would say that's a rarity in any game whether it has high or low volatility. If you played with low volatility, most of the time the wins would be more frequent but small. With high, you would have fewer, but they could be higher. But 112 spins without any winnings is pretty sad. 

I would consider it a bad luck and a bad streak and probably would have taken a break even though the bet was not high at all. 

9 måneder siden
gbdk

RTP percentage is a theoretical average calculated over millions of spins, meaning short-term sessions can deviate significantly from this average. To mitigate such experiences, consider choosing games with lower volatility and higher RTPs, and always set personal limits to manage your bankroll effectively. 

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ptdkgb
Jeg deler bare min erfaring for at give jer en idé om de spil, vi spiller, og de meget fine regler, der gælder for softwaren!

Opsummering af situationen:

Jeg spillede 112 spins til €0,10 hver.
Jeg modtog €0,00 tilbage.
Jeg spillede Volcano Coin på Tortuga Casino (licenseret på Curaçao).

Er dette matematisk muligt?
Rimelig antagelse: sejrsrate = 25%
Selv en meget volatil spilleautomat har ofte en gevinstrate pr. spin på omkring 20% ​​til 30%, hvilket betyder:
1 ud af 4 spins giver mindst en lille gevinst (selv €0,02 eller en "falsk gevinst").

Sandsynlighedsberegning
Hvis sandsynligheden for ikke at vinde på et enkelt spin er 75%, så er sandsynligheden for at tabe 112 gange i træk:
P=(0,75)112≈2,3×10⁻⁴P = (0,75)^{112} \approx 2,3 \times 10⁻⁴P=(0,75)112≈2,3×10⁻⁴Det er cirka 1 ud af 43.689.143.880.000 (omtrent 43 billioner).
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🧨 Selv med et pessimistisk estimat?
Hvis vi antager en meget lav gevinstrate på 15% (så en 0,85 chance for at tabe hvert spin):
P=(0,85)112≈7,2×10⁻⁶P = (0,85)^{112} \approx 7,2 \times 10⁻⁶P=(0,85)112≈7,2×10⁻⁶Det er cirka 1 ud af 138 millioner.

Matematisk konklusion:
Selv med et meget ugunstigt estimat er dette udfald statistisk set næsten umuligt på en virkelig fair spilleautomat.

Hvad synes I om dette, da det ser ud til, at disse spiludbydere er beskyttet af både regulatorer og casinoer!


Kan du nævne et websted, hvor du har haft denne uheldige oplevelse? Hvis ikke, så skriv det her i private beskeder. Jeg er meget interesseret i at vide, hvor det er.

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AlanBrown2000
9 måneder siden
gbdk

On our site we have no private messages and if you read that post carefully again, you will see the casino which player referred and it was- Tortuga Casino 🙂

jimtheglide
8 måneder siden
gbdk

RNG has failed apparently :D

But if you seriously consider the situation, it is not normal, something is clearly wrong

8 måneder siden
gbdk

Sorry i did not get back with screenshots they display them 10 per page, no way to export the game session, so i would need to take 11 screenshots... indeed something is completely wrong even impossible! 112 consecutive spins with 0 cent in return! in my 25 years gambling online i have never seen something similar! i asked the casino to send the gaming session to Booongo, but they refused stating that it can happen! indeed once every 43 trillion spins!

this is why the argument RTP percentage is a theoretical average calculated over millions of spins does not apply here! we are talking trillions here!

43,689,143,880,000 tillions!

43,689,143 millions

we are missing 6 zeros here!

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