Jeg synes, at udbetalingstiderne, såvel som verifikationskravene, er latterligt lange sammenlignet med de indbetalinger, vi foretager. For at indbetale penge beder de slet ikke om noget, bare at du har penge på kontoen. Vi kan indbetale med en nabos kort uden problemer, men at anmode om en udbetaling er pinefuldt. De fleste opgiver at modtage deres penge på grund af ventetiden. Hvad synes vi om de her fyre?
Hi, I think that in some cases, both of these processes are unnecessarily lengthy.
In any case, sometimes casinos do this on purpose, other times it is justified. If verification is performed, the player cannot withdraw money. It is then up to the casino when to start it and whether to request all documents at once or step by step.
When it comes to withdrawals, it mostly depends on the payment method, verification, whether the casino uses a third-party payment provider, or whether you are playing with a bonus, for example, and it is necessary to check the gameplay and so on.
However, it is always important to remember that you need to be patient. I have seen many players who can hardly wait even a day.
So what is a long wait for you?
For mig betyder en lang ventetid, at det kun tager 15 eller 20 sekunder at foretage en indbetaling, men for at den bliver accepteret, eller lad os sige godkendt, tager det mindst 3 dage, forudsat at det er hverdage. Hvis du tilfældigvis vinder en fredag aften, så forestil dig antallet af dage, du skal vente på dine gevinster. Det er uholdbart for nogen spiller; frustrationen opvejer profitten, især i mit tilfælde, da jeg betragter mig selv som ludomani. Heldigvis har jeg midlerne til at spille, når jeg vil, men udbetalingssystemet irriterer mig, og jeg finder det uretfærdigt. Hvis det stod til mig, ville jeg stoppe alle spillerne i protest mod uretfærdigheden ved udbetalinger.
Jeg synes, de burde godkende eller i det mindste fjerne annulleringssystemet inden for maksimalt 24 timer; ellers er det meget nemt for nogen at støde på en svær tid og beslutte sig for at tage den nemmeste løsning, som er at annullere udbetalinger. Der er få tåber tilbage i disse dage, og nogle casinoer tilbyder automatisk at annullere udbetalinger, så snart din saldo falder. Jeg vil kalde det lyssky taktik fra næsten alle, hvis ikke alle, casinoers side.
It's probably not the best thing, but canceling withdrawals is also common in casinos. I'm not entirely sure if there are any casinos where this doesn't work. Maybe there are some where they send the money right away, so you don't even have time to cancel the withdrawal. But that's how it works today. If a player has the urge to keep playing and cancel the withdrawal, then I would also look for a problem in the fact that, as you mentioned, they may be addicted and should therefore seek help and stop playing at casinos. Because one time it may be a canceled withdrawal, another time it may be something else that players who are in a similar situation will find.
Casinos are also at fault, that's for sure, but the fact that you get your deposit right away is often because the casino may not actually have your funds in their account yet, but basically we can say that they "lend" them to the player with the understanding that they will receive the deposit later. That's why players can play so quickly. If you deposit somewhere, you probably don't want to wait 5 days for your money to arrive. I understand that players don't want to wait long for withdrawals, but this is often conditional. Fair and honest casinos pay out as quickly as they can once they have verified the player. However, this depends on several factors, as I have described, so it is not always the simplest thing.
Hvad er det enkle i livet? Selvfølgelig er det enkle at få løn, og hvis det er muligt, ikke at betale. Det er sådan, man bliver rig, og de fattige bliver fattigere. Tænk over det, og du vil nå frem til den samme konklusion.
Efter dit svar spekulerer jeg på, om du virkelig tror, at en sund person uden ludomani ville risikere sine penge på casinoer, de ikke kender, casinoer med licens i lande med uklare love eller som er skattely? Eller tror du, at 95% af befolkningen her har en eller anden form for ludomaniproblem? Uanset om det er anerkendt eller ej, er jeg sikker på, at de har det; den eneste forskel er, at jeg anerkender det. Kunne du give mig din ærlige mening?
Hello, I hope you don't mind me joining in because I have been asking myself similar questions, and we have talked about that many times in the past with our Head of Safer Gambling Team, Šimon.
In my opinion the official numbers are very far from the reality. Playing in casinos makes literally no sense logically or economically. I now view gambling more as a "way of living" than a mere pastime.
In my opinion, far too many players are pretending to be fine, knowingly or unknowingly, and continue to view gambling as a fun pastime. I see it as an escape, a fleeting sense of freedom of choice.
In any case, what I have been witnessing for the last few years is a changed mindset of the problem gamblers. It is not uncommon that an addicted player is very ready to repeat that he is addicted but considers the whole world responsible for his state, accusing casinos of almost anything believable and seeking ways to refund money, because that means if I can get the money lost back, then things are ok, and no harm is done.
This is a toxic yet very popular mindset, if you ask me. When I started this job, I often encountered devastated people who were aware of their conditions and desperately sought relief and support. Nowadays it is about using the problem as a shield to avoid personal responsibility towards ourselves.
I'm not judging; this opinion was also shared with me by our external support worker, who has struggled with addiction for many years.
From my perspective, if I have to ask the casino for self-exclusion due to gambling addiction, I should consider myself a gambler and accept the fact that any other choice to deposit in a casino is mine. I should be honest and clear with myself. That, however, does not work when gambling serves as an escape or compensation. I reckon. Looking around the forum every day still makes me think that the operators are covering the people's desire for playing.
Don't make me wrong here, please.
I've also met people who play on a regular basis with a set budget; they are aware that they are prone to binge gaming, and they do not consider gambling "fun." They are also very angry after losing or happy when the luck turns in their favor.
As long as you can manage, it is your call. Same with smoking, drugs, and alcohol, I'd say.
I think more casinos should allow players to lock withdrawals for players who feel they might go back and cancel it and keep playing/lose it all.
Selvfølgelig burde de i det mindste fjerne muligheden for at annullere dem, så vi kan være sikre på, at vi i sidste ende får betaling; ellers er det for nemt for dem.
I think more casinos should allow players to lock withdrawals for players who feel they might go back and cancel it and keep playing/lose it all.
It would certainly be good, but I don't think it would be very profitable for the casino. Casinos are also a business and, of course, they should not focus on players who might have such problems.
On the other hand, you have to ask yourself if you have a problem waiting for your money, whether it might ultimately lead to something that could cause you issues in the future. If the answer is yes, then it's best to stop playing.
Kommentaren forklarer, at verifikations- og udbetalingsprocesser kan være langvarige og afhænge af mange faktorer. Samlet set er budskabet nyttigt, men nogle spillere kan finde det lidt gentagende og uklart, hvor det virkelige problem begynder.
I know what the post is about because I replied to it, but thank you for pointing it out.
Have you ever had similar problems?
It would certainly be good, but I don't think it would be very profitable for the casino. Casinos are also a business and, of course, they should not focus on players who might have such problems.
On the other hand, you have to ask yourself if you have a problem waiting for your money, whether it might ultimately lead to something that could cause you issues in the future. If the answer is yes, then it's best to stop playing.
The same casinos that are required to be on the lookout for problem gamblers etc meanwhile as you say are incentivized to design their site in such a way to take money from them in that situation. Kind of a double standard. Should players who frequently cancel withdrawals and lose those funds be considered higher risk and looked at? I would say so. I bet it does not happen in that scenario
Every casino has different rules. There are many casinos that take advantage of players in such situations, and that's not how it should be. Problem players should always be monitored if the casino has indications that could lead to this. On the other hand, I have also seen players abuse their addiction, so it is individual and complex.
Every casino has different rules. There are many casinos that take advantage of players in such situations, and that's not how it should be. Problem players should always be monitored if the casino has indications that could lead to this. On the other hand, I have also seen players abuse their addiction, so it is individual and complex.
Hvis du taler på min vegne, så lad mig forklare, at jeg anmodede om selvudelukkelse, hvor jeg klart og præcist angav, at jeg ønskede at lukke min konto, fordi jeg ikke kunne kontrollere spillet. Jeg blev juridisk og formelt informeret om, at det var gjort, og i sidste ende var det misbrug fra deres side at sende mig reklamer, vel vidende hvad jeg havde fortalt dem dagen før. Så misbrugsargumentet gælder slet ikke for min sag. Hvis de havde lukket min konto, da jeg anmodede om det, ville dette problem ikke eksistere.
I don't mean this in your case, but rather in general, as is usually the case in casinos, or rather, based on my experience with players.
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