Dette kan ikke overses af medarbejderne, og jeg må tilføje, at medarbejderne også modtog denne information via chat, før chatknappen blev deaktiveret. Chatten angav blot, at dette skulle sendes via e-mail. Derefter blev kontoen ikke blokeret i 14 dage. Bevidst!
Ja. Chatten har bedt dig om at følge betingelserne for ansvarligt spil, der er angivet på hjemmesiden, og sende en e-mail, så de har fået det skriftligt, at du ønsker at lukke kontoen på grund af ludomani. De har bare fulgt deres egne regler, ingen overvejelse kan ses her.
Derudover kan jeg bekræfte, at NOVAFORGE CASINOS har den samme support, uanset hvilket casino de kontakter. De arbejder ikke uafhængigt af hinanden, men snarere med hinanden og med det samme personale.
Bare fordi de arbejder på det samme kontor, betyder det ikke, at alle ved alt. Hos Casino Guru arbejder nogle af os også på kontoret, men alle har deres egne sager, de håndterer, og selv jeg kan ikke fortælle dig, hvilke sager mine kolleger håndterer, da jeg har nok af mine egne. NovaForge ejer mange casinoer, men disse drives af forskellige virksomheder. Bare fordi de bruger de samme supportagenter, betyder det ikke, at vi kan ignorere reglerne. Deres regler siger, at hvert casino opererer uafhængigt, og derfor skal man udelukke sig selv fra hvert enkelt casino separat. Jeg er enig i, at dette er kedeligt og ikke brugervenligt, men sådan er branchestandarden (som vi langsomt forsøger at ændre over for spillerne), og vi er nødt til at overholde den.
Derfor kunne jeg spille så mange penge væk igen. NovaForge Casinos er de eneste casinoer, hvor jeg kan registrere mig; jeg er udelukket alle andre steder.
I går aftes kunne jeg registrere mig på et NovaForge Casino, og jeg fortsætter med at modtage reklamer fra denne gruppe.
I min e-mail anmodede jeg specifikt om en udelukkelse fra denne gruppe af virksomheder – fra alle casinoer, inklusive Anjouan Gaming – så jeg ikke længere kan spille. Men advarslerne via e-mail og sms alene er meget udløsende – og det ved de udmærket godt.
Præcis. Du registrerer dig på et casino - du accepterer automatisk at modtage deres markedsføringsmateriale, medmindre du manuelt afmelder dig. Men hvis du modtager markedsføringsmateriale fra casinoer, hvor du angiveligt er udelukket på grund af ludomani, ville det være et problem, der er værd at undersøge.
Da du har et alvorligt spilleproblem, vil jeg kraftigt anbefale at installere den gratis app BetBlocker ( https://betblocker.org/de/ ) på din mobil og stationære/bærbare computer for at beskytte dig. Få din datter til at oprette en adgangskode til dig (som sikrer, at du ikke selv kan afinstallere eller slukke appen), og den vil automatisk forhindre dig i at få adgang til spillesider - inklusive NovaForge-casinoer - og jeg tror, at dette vil være et godt første skridt mod helbredelse.
Dernæst vil jeg anbefale at søge professionel hjælp. Hvis du ønsker det, kan du sende mig en e-mail med din bopælsby på matej.l@casino.guru , og jeg vil tjekke vores omfattende database over hjælpecentre i dit område. De kan hjælpe dig med at bekæmpe afhængigheden enten personligt, via telefon eller e-mails - afhængigt af din præference. Hjælp er tilgængelig, og du behøver ikke at lide alene.
Jeg synes, det er meget trist og umenneskeligt, at problemet med ludomani bliver behandlet på denne måde, og at institutioner som jeres faktisk støtter casinoerne mere.
Jeg er virkelig ked af, at du har det sådan. Hvis du tjekker klagerne over selvudelukkelse, der er offentliggjort på vores hjemmeside, vil du se, at vi faktisk er meget strenge over for casinoerne, og medmindre det modsatte er bevist, tager vi altid spillerens parti.
Men selvom vi kræver, at casinoer overholder reglerne for ansvarligt spil og vores Fair Gambling Codex , lægger vi også et vist ansvar på spillerne selv for at holde tingene fair. Vi har set alt for mange tilfælde, hvor spillere bevidst undgår checks og opretter flere konti, bruger anonyme casinoer uden KYC-checks og uden behov for at udfylde loginoplysninger ved registrering for at kunne spille. Efter at have tabt penge, hævder de at være spilleafhængige for at få deres indbetalinger tilbage. Jeg siger ikke, at dette er din sag, men på grund af sager som disse er vi nødt til at sørge for, at spillerne selv viser tilstrækkelig indsats for at udelukke sig selv.
Da e-mails kan blive forsinkede eller gå tabt, betragtes det ikke som en tilstrækkelig indsats fra vores side at sende én besked (eller ikke tydeligt angive, at du har problemer med at spille). Du kunne have spurgt eller sendt en anden besked (endda flere beskeder) til supporten angående status for din selvudelukkelsesbehandling, hvis du ikke modtog svaret inden for 48 timer. Selvom vi har en spillervenlig holdning, skal vi også være fair over for begge sider af tvisten, hvilket du forhåbentlig kan se og acceptere efter forklaringen.
Resumé: Casinoet har modtaget spillerens anmodning om selvudelukkelse den 26. marts, lukket kontoen permanent den 15. april og har allerede refunderet spilleren de 100 €, der blev indbetalt i den periode. Der er ikke mere at gøre. På grund af ovennævnte årsager vil denne klage nu blive afvist. Tak for din forståelse, og jeg beklager, at vi ikke kunne være til mere hjælp i denne situation. Tøv ikke med at kontakte os, hvis du støder på problemer med dette eller andre casinoer i fremtiden.
This cannot be overlooked by employees, and I must add that employees also received this information via chat before the chat button was deactivated. The chat simply stated that this had to be sent via email. After that, the account was not blocked for 14 days. Deliberately!
Indeed. The chat has asked you to follow the Responsible gambling conditions stated on the website and send an e-mail, so they have it in writing you would like to close the account due to the gambling addiction. They just followed their own rules, no deliberation can be seen here.
Furthermore, I can confirm that NOVAFORGE CASINOS have the same support, regardless of which casino they contact. They don't work independently of each other, but rather with each other and with the same staff.
Just because they work in the same office, it does not mean everyone knows everything. At Casino Guru, some of us also work in the office, yet everyone has their own cases they deal with, and even I could not tell you what cases my colleagues are dealing with, as I have enough of my own. NovaForge owns many casinos, but those are operated by different companies. Just because they use the same support agents, doesn't mean we can ignore the rules. Their rules state that each casino operates independently and therefore one needs to exclude themselves from each separately. I agree this is tedious and not user-friendly, but such is the industry standard (that we are trying to slowly change towards the players) and we have to comply.
That's why I was able to gamble away so much money again. NovaForge Casinos are the only casinos where I can register; I'm banned everywhere else.
Yesterday evening I was able to register at a NovaForge Casino and I continue to receive advertising from this group.
In my email, I specifically requested a ban from this group of companies – from all casinos, including Anjouan Gaming – so that I can no longer play. But the warnings via email and text message alone are very triggering – and they know that very well.
Exactly. You register in a casino - you automatically agree with receiving their marketing materials, unless you manually unsubscribe. However, if you are receiving marketing materials from casinos where you are supposed to be excluded due to the gambling addiction, that would be a problem worth investigating.
Since you have a serious gambling problem, I would strongly recommend installing free app BetBlocker (https://betblocker.org/de/) on your mobile and desktop/laptop computer to keep you safe. Have your daughter to set up a password for you (which will ensure you can't uninstall or turn off the app yourself) and it will automatically prevent you from accessing gambling sites - including NovaForge casinos - and I believe this will be great first step towards the recovery.
Next, I would recommend seeking professional help. If you would like, you can e-mail me your town of residence at matej.l@casino.guru, and I will check our comprehensive database of help centres in your vicinity. They can help you fight the addiction either in person, via phone, or e-mails - depends on your preference. Help is available, and you don't have to suffer on your own.
I find it very sad and inhumane that the issue of gambling addiction is being treated in this way and that institutions like yours actually support the casinos more.
I am truly sorry you feel that way. If you check the complaints regarding self-exclusion published on our site, you will see we are actually very stern with the casinos and unless proven otherwise, we always take the player's side.
But as much as we require casinos to adhere to the responsible gambling rules and our Fair Gambling Codex, we also place some responsibility on the players themselves, to keep things fair. We have had too many cases where players knowingly avoid checks and create multiple accounts, use anonymous casinos with no KYC checks and no need to fill out credentials upon registration, to be able to play. After losing money, they claim gambling addiction to get their deposits back. I am not saying this is your case, but because of cases like these, we have to make sure players themselves show sufficient effort in self-excluding themselves.
Since e-mails can get delayed or lost, sending one message (or not clearly stating having gambling issues), is not considered a sufficient effort by us. You could have inquired or sent another message (even multiple messages) to the support, regarding the state of your self-exclusion processing, if you did not receive the response within 48 hours. As much as we have a pro-player stance, we also need to be fair to the both sides of the dispute, which hopefully you can see and accept after the explanation.
Summary: the casino has received the player's self-exclusion request on 26th March, closed the account permanently on 15th April and already has refunded the player 100€ that were deposited in that time, there is nothing more to be done. Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.