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The player from Sweden encountered issues withdrawing funds after wagering a welcome bonus at mrwest.win. Despite verifying his account, he was informed that he had breached a rule by playing a jackpot game, which he denied as the game he played did not qualify. After a week of no response to his inquiries, he sought clarification on the situation. The casino confirmed that his balance had been restored to €438.04, which was the amount prior to the breach, and only the winnings generated after the breach were voided. The Complaints Team concluded that the casino's decision was justified, considering the terms and conditions, and encouraged the casino to implement measures to prevent similar misunderstandings in the future.
Spilleren fra Sverige havde problemer med at hæve penge efter at have omsat en velkomstbonus på mrwest.win. Selvom han havde verificeret sin konto, blev han informeret om, at han havde overtrådt en regel ved at spille et jackpotspil, hvilket han benægtede, da det spil, han spillede, ikke kvalificerede. Efter en uge uden svar på hans henvendelser søgte han afklaring af situationen. Casinoet bekræftede, at hans saldo var blevet genoprettet til €438,04, hvilket var beløbet før overtrædelsen, og at kun de gevinster, der blev genereret efter overtrædelsen, blev annulleret. Klageteamet konkluderede, at casinoets beslutning var berettiget i betragtning af vilkårene og betingelserne, og opfordrede casinoet til at implementere foranstaltninger for at forhindre lignende misforståelser i fremtiden.
Jeg omsatte hele bonussen og verificerede min konto med alle nødvendige dokumenter.
Jeg har både vedhæftet den på deres hjemmeside og sendt den til deres e-mail.
Efter et par dage modtog jeg en e-mail om, at min konto var blevet valideret, så jeg ventede bare på mine penge.
Mens jeg ventede, kontaktede jeg deres live support dagligt for at spørge, hvornår de ville sende mig mine penge, og de bad mig bare om at vente.
I sidste uge modtog jeg en e-mail fra dem, der sagde, at jeg havde overtrådt en regel og spillet et jackpotspil, hvilket jeg ikke har gjort, siden jeg var opmærksom på denne regel.
Min første personlige mening er, at hvis en spilleautomat er forbudt at spille på, bør det ikke engang være muligt at åbne den, eller i det mindste bør der dukke en pop-up op, der fortæller spilleren, at det er forbudt.
Men jeg spillede ikke engang noget forbudt spil.
De påstår, at jeg har spillet et jackpotspil uden engang at kende betydningen af jackpot.
Jeg spillede på spilleautomaten Maneki 88 Fortunes, som de påstår har en jackpotfunktion, men det har den ikke.
En jackpot er den største gevinst, du kan vinde, kombineret med andre spilleautomater, hvor en lille sum af din indsats går til puljen.
Størrelsen på din indsats er lige stor, da der er et lige stort beløb, der går til jackpotten, og vinderen modtager den fulde jackpot uanset indsatsstørrelsen.
Maneki 88 har en lignende funktion som bonuskøbsfunktionen på mange spilleautomater, hvor den påvirkes af indsatsstørrelsen og kun gælder for den spilleautomat, ikke andre.
Når jeg skriver "Hvad er en jackpot" på Google, får jeg dette svar:
en stor pengepræmie i et spil eller lotteri, især en der akkumuleres, indtil den vindes.
Jeg har svaret på deres seneste e-mail, men har ikke fået noget svar endnu, og det er en uge siden.
Jeg kan dele e-mail-samtalerne mellem os
I was playing with a welcome bonus on mrwest.win
I wagered the full bonus and verified my account with all required documents.
I both attached it on their website and sent it to their email.
After a few days I received an email saying my account has been validated so i was just waiting for my money.
While waiting i contacted their live support daily to ask when they were going to send me my money and they just told me to wait.
Last week i received an email from them saying i have breached a rule and played a jackpot game, which i have not since i was aware of this rule.
First of my personal opinion is that if a slot machine is forbidden to play it should not even be possible to open it or at least a pop up should come up letting the player know it is forbidden.
But I did not even play any forbidden game.
They claim that i have played a jackpot game without even knowing the meaning of jackpot.
I played a slot machine Maneki 88 Fortunes which they claim has a jackpot function but it has not.
A jackpot is the biggest price you can win combined with other slot machines where a small sum of your bet goes to the pot.
The size of your bet does not matter since there is an equal sum going to the jackpot and the winner will receive the full jackpot no matter of the betsize.
Maneki 88 has a similar funktion as the bonus buy function on many slot machines where it gets affected by the betsize and only applies to that slot machine not others.
When I type what is a jackpot on goolge i get this answer:
a large cash prize in a game or lottery, especially one that accumulates until it is won.
I replied to their latest email but i have not got any response yet and that was one week ago.
I can share the the email conversations between us
Mange tak for at du har indsendt denne klage. Jeg er ked af at høre om det problem, du oplever. Jeg har tjekket bonusvilkårene, og dette er, hvad jeg fandt:
4.29 Bemærk venligst, at følgende spil ikke må spilles, mens der er en bonus: Alle versioner af Craps, Video Poker, Rummy,alle Jackpot-spilog følgende spilleautomater: Mega Joker, Dead or Alive, Dead or Alive 2, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, Take the Bank, Scrooge, Solar Queen, Solar King, Solar Temple, Sea Hunter, Beautiful Bones, Le Kaffee Bar, Vampire: The Masquerade - Las Vegas, Big Bang, Eggomatic, Lucky Angler, Wild Turkey, Koi Princess, Champion of the Track, Robin Hood, Simsalabim, Cosmic Fortune, The Wish Master, Pandamania, Wild Water, Tower Quest, Wizard of Gems, Eye of the kraken, Golden ticket, Energoonz, Pimped, Gemix, Pearls of India, Gunslinger, Royal Masquerade, Rage to Riches, Fire Joker og Mystery Joker.
Var du klar over, at det ikke var tilladt at spille Jackpot-spil, mens din bonus var aktiv?
Har du bemærket, at spillet Maneki 88 Fortunes inkluderer en Jackpot-funktion?
Spilte du andre spilleautomater, mens bonussen stadig var aktiv?
Jeg håber, at vi kan hjælpe dig med at løse dette problem hurtigst muligt. Tak på forhånd for dit svar.
Med venlig hilsen
Veronika
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Dear marcovlindeman73,
Thank you very much for submitting this complaint. I'm sorry to hear about the problem you're experiencing. I have checked the Bonus Terms and this is what I found:
4.29 Please note that the following games are not allowed to be played whilst having a Bonus: All versions of Craps, Video Poker, Rummy, all Jackpot Games, and the following Slot games: Mega Joker, Dead or Alive, Dead or Alive 2, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, Take the Bank, Scrooge, Solar Queen, Solar King, Solar Temple, Sea Hunter, Beautiful Bones, Le Kaffee Bar, Vampire: The Masquerade - Las Vegas, Big Bang, Eggomatic, Lucky Angler, Wild Turkey, Koi Princess, Champion of the Track, Robin Hood, Simsalabim, Cosmic Fortune, The Wish Master, Pandamania, Wild Water, Tower Quest, Wizard of Gems, Eye of the kraken,Golden ticket, Energoonz, Pimped, Gemix, Pearls of india, Gunslinger, Royal Masquerade, Rage to Riches, Fire Joker and Mystery Joker.
Were you aware that playing Jackpot games was not allowed while your bonus was active?
Have you noticed that the game Maneki 88 Fortunes includes a Jackpot feature?
Did you play any other slot games while the bonus was still active?
I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards
Veronika
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Jeg kan se, at vores team faktisk delvist har annulleret gevinster fra din casinokonto, da du har spillet et Jackpot-spil, mens du satsede på en aktiv bonus, og dermed har overtrådt følgende artikel i de accepterede vilkår og betingelser:
4.29 Bemærk venligst, at følgende spil ikke må spilles, mens der er en bonus: Alle versioner af Craps, Video Poker, Rummy, alle Jackpot-spil og følgende spilleautomater: Mega Joker, Dead or Alive, Dead or Alive 2, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, Take the Bank, Scrooge, Solar Queen, Solar King, Solar Temple, Sea Hunter, Beautiful Bones, Le Kaffee Bar, Vampire: The Masquerade - Las Vegas, Big Bang, Eggomatic, Lucky Angler, Wild Turkey, Koi Princess, Champion of the Track, Robin Hood, Simsalabim, Cosmic Fortune, The Wish Master, Pandamania, Wild Water, Tower Quest, Wizard of Gems, Eye of the kraken, Golden ticket, Energoonz, Pimped, Gemix, Pearls of India, Gunslinger, Royal Masquerade, Rage to Riches, Fire Joker og Mystery Joker.
Husk, at kun gevinster genereret efter bruddene er blevet annulleret, og din saldo før bruddene er blevet returneret til din casinokonto i overensstemmelse hermed.
Det pågældende spil er Maneki 88 Fortunes fra udbyderen B Gaming - jeg har inkluderet skærmbilleder, der viser, at spillet tydeligt angiver og viser jackpotterne både på spillets startskærm og i spilinformationssektionen.
Med venlig hilsen,
Eva Stone
Chef for kundeoplevelse
MrWest Casino
Dear marcovlindeman73 & Veronika,
I am sorry to hear about your situation!
I can see that indeed our team has partially voided winnings from your casino account, as you have played a Jackpot game while wagering an active bonus, thus breaching the following article of the accepted terms and conditions:
4.29 Please note that the following games are not allowed to be played whilst having a Bonus: All versions of Craps, Video Poker, Rummy, all Jackpot Games, and the following Slot games: Mega Joker, Dead or Alive, Dead or Alive 2, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, Take the Bank, Scrooge, Solar Queen, Solar King, Solar Temple, Sea Hunter, Beautiful Bones, Le Kaffee Bar, Vampire: The Masquerade - Las Vegas, Big Bang, Eggomatic, Lucky Angler, Wild Turkey, Koi Princess, Champion of the Track, Robin Hood, Simsalabim, Cosmic Fortune, The Wish Master, Pandamania, Wild Water, Tower Quest, Wizard of Gems, Eye of the kraken,Golden ticket, Energoonz, Pimped, Gemix, Pearls of india, Gunslinger, Royal Masquerade, Rage to Riches, Fire Joker and Mystery Joker.
Keep in mind that only the winnings generated following the breaches have been voided, your balance before the breaches has been returned to your casino account balance accordingly.
The game in question is Maneki 88 Fortunes, from the provider B Gaming - I have included screenshots showing that the game clearly states and shows the Jackpots both on the home screen of the game, as well as in the game information section.
Ja, jeg var klar over, at jackpotspil ikke er tilladt, når man spiller med en bonus.
Jeg vidste ikke, at deres mini-, minor-, major- og hovedpræmie var en jackpot-funktion, fordi præmiesummen ændrer sig afhængigt af, hvor meget du satser, ligesom deres andre bonuskøb gør.
Jackpot betyder generelt, at en lille del af hver indsats, du foretager, går til jackpotten.
hvilket ikke er tilfældet her.
Hvis casinoet vælger at kalde deres funktioner for jackpot, når det ikke hører til den traditionelle betydning af en jackpot, bør der dukke en pop-up op som en meddelelse op, der nævner dette til spillerne, da det er forbudt at spille, mens der er en aktiv bonus.
Ja, jeg spillede også nogle andre spil, men jeg kan ikke huske hvilket et, og jeg kan heller ikke finde det i deres spillehistorik.
Hi,
Yes i was aware that Jackpot games are not allowed while playing with a bonus.
I did not know that their mini, minor, major and grand price was a jackpot feature because the prize sum changes depending on how much you bet just as their other feature bonus buy does.
Jackpot in general means that a small amount of every bet you make goes towards the jackpot,
which is not the case here.
Also if the casino choose to call their features for jackpot when it is not belonging to the traditional meaning of a jackpot then a pop up should come up as notification mentioning this to the playes as it is forbidden to play while having an active bonus.
Yes i played some other games as well but dont remeber which one and i can not find it either on their bet history.
Der findes forskellige typer jackpotspil og jackpots, der tilbydes. I tilfælde af det spil, du har spillet, kan du se på hovedskærmen, at udbyderen reklamerer for det som et jackpotspil.
Med venlig hilsen,
Eva Stone
Chef for kundeoplevelse
MrWest Casino
Dear marcovlindeman73 & Veronika,
Thank you for your reply!
There are different types of jackpot games available and jackpots offered. In the case of the game you played, you can see from the main game screen that the provider is advertising this as a jackpot game.
Ethvert spil, der tilbyder en jackpot, og som tydeligt er markeret som sådan, betragtes som et jackpotspil og bør ikke spilles, mens der omsættes en bonus.
Med venlig hilsen,
Eva Stone
Chef for kundeoplevelse
MrWest Casino
Dear marcovlindeman73 & Veronika,
Thank you for your reply!
Any game that offers a Jackpot and which is clearly marked as such is considered to be a Jackpot game and shouldn't be played while wagering a bonus.
Tak for din kontakt og for at du har givet os yderligere oplysninger vedrørende spillerens sag.
Kære marcovlindeman73,
Kan du venligst bekræfte, om din saldo blev gendannet til det beløb, den var på, før casinoet informerede dig om brud på bonusvilkårene forårsaget af at have spillet et jackpotspil?
Dear MrWest Casino Representative,
Thank you for getting in touch with us and for providing additional information regarding the player's case.
Dear marcovlindeman73,
Could you please confirm whether your balance was restored to the amount it was at before the casino informed you of the breach of the Bonus Terms caused by playing a jackpot game?
Spillerens saldo er i øjeblikket 438,04 EUR, hvilket er den saldo, der var optjent, før casinoet foretog den første overtrædelse af casinoets accepterede vilkår og betingelser. De midler, der blev genereret efter overtrædelserne, er blevet annulleret og vil ikke blive returneret.
Til reference blev det første væddemål, der overtrådte vilkårene og betingelserne, placeret af spilleren den 15/04/2025 - 14:25:27 (GMT-tid) på jackpotspillet Maneki 88 Fortunes for et beløb på 9,5 EUR. Saldoen før placeringen af dette væddemål var 438,04 EUR.
Med venlig hilsen,
Eva Stone
Chef for kundeoplevelse
MrWest Casino
Dear marcovlindeman73 & Veronika,
The player's balance is currently EUR 438.04, which is the balance the played had accrued prior to making the first breach of the casino's accepted terms and conditions. The funds generated following the breaches have been voided and will not be returned.
For reference, the first bet that breached the terms and conditions was placed by the player on 15/04/2025 - 14:25:27 (GMT Time) on the Jackpot game Maneki 88 Fortunes, in the amount of EUR 9.5. The balance prior to placing this bet was EUR 438.04.
Tak for opdateringen. Kunne du venligst fremsende et skærmbillede fra spillerens konto, der bekræfter, at saldoen blev genoprettet til €438,04 som angivet? Du kan sende det til min e-mailadresse: veronika.f@casino.guru .
Kære marcovlindeman73,
Da saldoen fra før bruddet er blevet genoprettet, og kun de gevinster, der blev genereret efter bruddet, er blevet annulleret, anser vi casinoets beslutning for at være retfærdig i henhold til de angivne vilkår og betingelser. Hvis der er yderligere beviser eller præciseringer, du gerne vil have os til at overveje, er du velkommen til at dele dem. Ellers venter vi på skærmbilledet fra casinoet, før vi lukker klagen som uberettiget.
Dear Eva,
Thank you for the update. Could you kindly provide a screenshot from the player's account that confirms the balance was restored to €438.04 as stated? You can send it to my email address: veronika.f@casino.guru.
Dear marcovlindeman73,
Since the balance before the breach occurred has been reinstated, and only the winnings generated after the breach were voided, we consider the casino’s decision to be fair under the stated terms and conditions. If there’s any additional evidence or clarification you’d like us to consider, feel free to share it. Otherwise, we will wait for the screenshot confirmation from the casino before closing the complaint as unjustified.
Mange tak for at du sendte mig e-mailen med den ønskede dokumentation.
Kære marcovlindeman73,
Tak for din tålmodighed og for at du har givet os detaljerede forklaringer under hele klageprocessen.
Vi forstår din frustration, især med hensyn til manglen på et advarselssystem, der ville forhindre spillere i at åbne spil, der er udelukket fra bonusomsætning. Selvom vi er enige i, at tekniske begrænsninger eller synlige advarsler i høj grad kan hjælpe med at undgå sådanne problemer, anses casinoets løsning med at genoprette din saldo til det beløb, du havde, før bruddet fandt sted, for at være fair fra vores synspunkt. Dette er i overensstemmelse med casinoets offentliggjorte vilkår og betingelser, som tydeligt nævner, at jackpotspil - inklusive det pågældende - ikke er tilladt, mens en bonus er aktiv.
Derfor anser vi casinoets beslutning for at være berettiget. Når det er sagt, opfordrer vi MrWest Casino til at overveje at implementere forebyggende foranstaltninger for at hjælpe spillere med at undgå lignende misforståelser i fremtiden.
Denne klage vil nu blive lukket. Tak for din forståelse, men jeg beklager, at vi ikke kunne være til mere hjælp i denne situation. Tøv ikke med at kontakte os, hvis du støder på problemer med dette eller andre casinoer i fremtiden.
Med venlig hilsen,
Veronika
Casino.Guru-teamet
Dear Eva,
Thank you very much for sending me the email with the requested evidence.
Dear marcovlindeman73,
Thank you for your patience and for providing detailed explanations throughout this complaint process.
We understand your frustration, especially regarding the lack of a warning system that would prevent players from opening games excluded from bonus wagering. While we agree that technical restrictions or visible alerts could greatly help avoid such issues, the casino's solution to reinstate your balance to the amount you had before the breach occurred is considered fair from our point of view. This is in line with the casino’s published terms and conditions, which clearly mention that jackpot games—including the one in question—are not permitted while a bonus is active.
Therefore, we consider the casino’s decision to be justified. That said, we do encourage MrWest Casino to consider implementing preventive measures to help players avoid similar misunderstandings in the future.
This complaint will now be closed. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
Best regards,
Veronika
Casino.Guru Team
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