Desværre ser det ud til, at casinoet har valgt ikke at svare yderligere. Da der ikke har været nogen kommentar fra dem, følte jeg, at jeg er nødt til at forklare situationen her.
Casinoet har kontaktet mig via e-mail, efter jeg havde inviteret dem til at forklare situationen i tråden. De har oplyst, at spilleren har registreret sig på deres hjemmeside fra det begrænsede område (Holland). De har også oplyst, at Holland eksplicit er begrænset i deres vilkår og betingelser, at der ikke er nogen oplysninger på hjemmesiden, der kan betragtes som en invitation fra spilleren fra Holland, og at populære NL-betalingsmetoder slet ikke er tilgængelige.
Til det havde jeg en række ting at svare på, nemlig:
- Der er ingen IP-blokering for NL-spillere, hvilket vi mener skal håndhæves af et fair casino.
- Det er ikke muligt for spillere at vælge deres bopælsland under registreringen (dette ville forhindre spillere fra begrænsede områder i at tilmelde sig).
- Det første, der vises til den nyregistrerede spiller, er indbetalingsmenuen, hvor der er flere betalingsmetoder tilgængelige, såsom bankoverførsel (på hollandsk), to hollandske banker og flere andre.
- I kontoindstillingerne er der derefter mulighed for at vælge Holland som bopælsland, og telefonnummerpræfikset er allerede forudvalgt baseret på IP (så casinoet registrerer spillernes IP-adresser, de vælger bare ikke at blokere dem).
- Efter at have tjekket i Wayback Machine, har jeg fundet ud af, at casinoets hjemmeside tidligere indeholdt denne del på sin hovedside: "Er online casinoer lovlige i Holland? Svar: Ja, online casinoer er lovlige i Holland, forudsat at de er licenseret af den hollandske spillemyndighed (KSA), hvilket Tip Top Casino overholder."
- Efter at have modtaget et tip fra spilleren og tjekket casinoets Trustpilot-side selv, har jeg bemærket, at næsten alle anmeldelser er fra spillere fra Holland, og desuden har casinoet svaret på mange af dem, uden at nævne, at det er forbudt for disse brugere at spille der , selv ikke én gang .
For at konkludere vil jeg derfor gerne sige, at casinoet højst sandsynligt anvender den aggressive teknik med at lokke hollandske spillere ind på deres casino og derefter lukke deres konti og konfiskere deres penge på baggrund af, at spillerne kommer fra et land med restriktioner. Jeg kender ikke til andre lignende sager, men denne gør det tydeligt. Dette berettiger fuldt ud til at lukke denne klage som uafklaret.
Kooltuinstrijder, desværre kan jeg ikke hjælpe dig her. Casinoet er ikke engang reguleret af nogen licens, så det er heller ikke en mulighed at indgive en klage til dem. Jeg håber dog, at casinoets omdømme er værdifuldt for dem, og at de vil genoverveje deres tilgang, efter at denne klage er lukket, og deres sikkerhedsindeks er faldet. Jeg er dog bange for, at dette ikke vil være tilfældet, da det omstridte beløb er ret højt. Jeg beklager, at jeg ikke kunne være mere til hjælp.
Unfortunately, it seems like the casino has chosen not to reply any further. Since there has been no comment from them, I fell that I must explain the situation here.
The casino has reached out to me via e-mail after I had invited them to explain the situation in the thread. They have stated that the player has registered on their website from the restricted territory (Netherlands). They have also stated that Netherlands is explicitly restricted in their terms and conditions, that there are no information on the website which may be considered an invite by the player from NL, that popular NL payment methods are not available at all.
To that I had numerous things to respond, namely:
- There is no IP block for NL players, which we believe must be enforced by a fair casino.
- There is no possibility for players to choose their country of residence while registering (this would prevent players from restricted territories from signing up).
- The first thing which is shown to the newly registered player is the deposit menu, in which there are multiple payment methods available, such as bank transfer (in Dutch language), two Dutch banks and more others.
- Then, ine the account setting there is a possibility to choose Netherlands as the country of residence, and the phone number prefix is already pre-chosen based on IP (so the casino detects players' IPs, they just choose not to block them).
- After checking in the Wayback Machine, I have found that previously the casino's website contained this part on its main page: "Are online casino's legal in the Netherlands? Answer : Yes, online casino's are legal in the Netherlands, provided they are licensed by the Dutch Gaming Autority (KSA) which Tip Top Casino COMPLIES WITH."
- After receiving a tip from the player and checking the casino's Trustpilot page for myself, I have notice that almost every review there is from the player from NL, and, moreover, the casino has responded to many of them, while not mentioning that playing there for these users is forbidden even once.
Thus, to give a conclusion, I would like to say that the casino most likely applies the predatory technique of luring Dutch players into their casino, and then closing their accounts and confiscating their funds on the basis that players are from restricted country. I am not aware of other cases like that, but this one makes it obvious. This fully justifies closing this complaint as unresolved.
Kooltuinstrijder, unfortunately, I cannot help you here. The casino is not even regulated by any license, so lodging a complaint with them is not an option too. However, I hope that the casino's reputation is valuable to them, and after this complaint is closed and their Safety Index is decreased, they would reconsider their approach. However, I am afraid that this will not be the case, since the disputed amount is quite high. I am sorry I could not be more of help.
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