Kære Ybets-repræsentant,
Jeg vil gerne fortælle dig, at jeg talte med [fjernet af casino.guru admin] og diskuterede denne sag med dem, og de fortalte mig følgende i korte træk:
"Efter at have fastslået, at spilleren var bosiddende i Holland (efter KYC-verifikation), burde han ikke have fået lov til eller været opfordret til at spille hos Ybets. Ved at tilbageholde hans saldo og ikke være i stand til at hæve pengene, har du presset spilleren til at spille hos Ybets for at 'få sine udbetalingsgrænser forhøjet'. Derudover er det ulovligt at lade ham spille, hvilket tydeligt fremgår af Ybets egne vilkår og betingelser. Ybets burde have udvist aktiv omsorgspligt, men opretholdt ikke dette."
Efter at spillernes midler blev konfiskeret og endelig returneret efter 5 måneder, skulle midlerne have været sendt til "spilleren", som anmodet om flere gange.
Efter 0 aktivitet på kontoen i over 5 måneder var der ingen sikkerhedsforanstaltninger, og Ybets-teamet tjekkede heller ikke spilleren, og alt var i orden. De eneste forslag, der blev givet, var at satse mere og 'være mere aktiv'. Spilleren gik fra 0 indsatser til et par hundrede tusinde i timer med meget lange sessioner, og signalerne blev ignoreret af Ybets.
Spilleren har også flere gange meddelt Ybets, at de ikke ønskede at spille, og at saldoen skulle sendes til ham med det samme. For at forhindre ham i at spille, har spilleren endda flere gange spurgt, om kontoen kunne lukkes, og om de resterende midler kunne sendes til ham. Ybets nægtede at gøre dette, selvom dette tydeligvis var en mulighed, hvilket også var angivet i vilkårene og betingelserne, og da kontoen blev lukket, med midler på kontoen.
For at tillade en spiller fra Holland at spille hos Ybets, selvom det tydeligt er angivet, at dette ikke er tilladt i henhold til Ybets egne vilkår og hollandsk lov, er væddemålene ugyldige, og den resterende saldo, før nationaliteten blev fastslået, skal returneres til spilleren.
Ybets har tydeligt vist, at der ikke er nogen sikkerhedsforanstaltninger, og at deres intention ikke var at udbetale spillerens skyldige saldo. De overholdt ikke nogen sikkerhedsforanstaltninger, som et online casino bør opretholde, og som burde have været stillet til rådighed for spilleren, som beskrevet i klagen. Spilleren har også lukket sin konto flere gange tidligere, hvilket burde være et signal om visse problemer, som spilleren kunne have haft, hvilket også blev ignoreret. Spillerens konto blev undersøgt for at få pengene tilbage, og de burde have set dette og brugt det mod spilleren.
Spilleren skylder stadig den resterende saldo på cirka 99.000 USDT.
Spilleren har tilbudt Ybets et forlig på 80.000 USDT, som Ybets kan acceptere eller vælge at betale de resterende 99.000 USDT.
I øjeblikket er spilleren stadig i kontakt med Ybets, men der vil blive iværksat juridiske procedurer, hvis ingen af de to givne muligheder følges af Ybets, da de tydeligvis handlede med onde hensigter.
Ybets bør meddele, hvilken mulighed de ønsker at vælge, eller hvilken person de kan kontakte, så min advokat kan indgive en klage til myndighederne og fortsætte retssager.
Det er tydeligt, hvad Ybets intentioner var, og det er simpelthen ikke rigtigt. Hvis Ybets skulle vælge at ignorere eller ikke efterkomme ved at udbetale den resterende saldo eller acceptere forligstilbuddet, er muligheden udover retssager også at anmelde dem til forskellige offentlige myndigheder, såsom Interpol CyberCrime, KSA fra Holland, licensmyndigheder og alle andre myndigheder, der er relaterede til dette problem.
Jeg vil gerne have styr på tingene, men hvis Ybets nægter at gøre det, er der masser af muligheder. Jeg burde have fået udbetalt pengene, da pengene var tilbage efter 5 måneder, men I nægtede at få mig til at spille og miste pengene.
Hvis der ikke opnås en forlig om, at pengene sendes fuldt ud, bedes du give alle de juridiske oplysninger, så jeg kan videresende disse til min advokat, hvis det er nødvendigt.
@Adam, kan du give din mening om dette?
Tak på forhånd.
Dear Ybets representative,
I would like to let you know that I talked to [removed by casino.guru admin] and discussed this case with them and they told me the following in summary:
"After establishing that the player was a dutch resident (after KYC verification) he shouldn’t have been allowed or encouraged to play at Ybets. By withholding his balance and not been able to cashout you have pressured the player in to playing at Ybets to ‘get his withdrawal limits increased’. Besides it is illegal to let him play, it is clearly stated in Ybets own terms and conditions. Ybets should have given active duty of care, but didn’t uphold this.
After the players funds were confiscated and finally returned after 5 months the funds should have been send to ‘the player’ as requested multiple times.
Also after 0 activity on the account for over 5 months there were no safeguards or any of the Ybets team that checked up on the player and everything was in his right mind, the only suggestions that were made was to bet more and ‘be more active’. The player went from 0 bets to a few hundred thousands in hours with very long sessions, the signals were ignored by Ybets.
The player has also notified Ybets multiple times that they didn’t want to play and that the balance should be send to him immediately. To prevent him from playing the player has even asked multiple times if the account could be closed and that the remaining funds could be send to him. Ybets refused to do so, while this was clearly an option, also stated in the terms and conditions and by the end when the account was closed with funds in the account.
For allowing a player from the Netherlands to play at Ybets while this is clearly stated that this is not allowed by Ybets own terms and also dutch law, the bets are void and the remaining balance before the nationality was established should be returned to the player.
Ybets has shown clearly that there are no safeguards and that their intention was not to pay out the balance owed by the player. They didn’t comply with any safety measures that an online casino should uphold and that should have been provided to the player as discussed in the complaint. Also the player has closed his account multiple times in the past, which should be a signal to certain issues that the player could have, also this was ignored. The players account was investigated to get the funds returned, they should have seen this and used this against the player.
The player is still owed the remaining balance of roughly 99k USDT.
The player has offered Ybets a settlement of 80k USDT, which Ybets can accept, or choose to pay the remaining 99k USDT.
At this moment the player is still in contact with Ybets, but Legal procedures will follow if neither of the two options given are followed by Ybets as they clearly acted with bad intent.
Ybets should notify which option they would like to choose or which person can be contacted so that my attorney could file a complaint with the authorities and proceed with legal action.
It is clear what Ybets intentions were, and that just isn’t right. If Ybets should choose to ignore or not comply by paying out the remaining balance or accept the settlement offer, the option besides legal action are also reporting them to different bodies of government agencies, like Interpol CyberCrime, the KSA from the Netherlands, licensing bodies, and any other related authorities to this issue."
I would like to work things out, but if Ybets refuses to do so, there are plenty of options. I should have been paid out when the funds were restored after 5 months, but you refused to get me playing and lose the funds.
If no settlement is reached of the funds are send in full, provide all the legal information so I can forward this to my attourney if needed.
@Adam could you please your view on this.
Thanks in advance.
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