Jeg var nødt til at vende tilbage for at svare på advarslen fra lederen af fællesskabet her - det er ekstremt vigtigt at give et bredere overblik over dette.
Jeg forstår pointen med valgmuligheder og folks beslutning om at spille på sådanne sider - jeg forstår det fuldt ud.
At anvende en betalingsmekanisme til bevidst at omgå globale bankregler og juridisk bindende behandlingsregler for alle forhandlere på VISA/Mastercard er dog fuldstændig forkert, uanset hvordan man ser på det. Faktum er, at spillere ikke ville spille på disse sider, hvis denne yderst ulovlige rute ikke eksisterede. Det er svindel - der er ingen anden måde at sige det på - det defineres som betalingssvindel af betalingssystemerne selv. Betalingssvindel sidestilles med hvidvaskning af penge. Definitionen af hvidvaskning af penge er at tage penge, du ikke formodes at kunne få fat i, og skjule/rense dem ved hjælp af komplekse strategier - det er PRÆCIS, hvad disse virksomheder gør. Hvorfor tror du, at Europol og AMLA efterforsker adskillige casinoer (som faktisk promoveres her)?
Hvis CG mener, at dette er helt acceptabelt, så fint, men det skal påpeges. Ved at promovere disse sider her tolererer du hvidvaskning af penge/svindel på casinoniveau - men du føler stadig behov for at advare spillere om "potentielle retssager og beskyldninger om svindel".
Jeg vil give dig et eksempel - Santeda Group - de sender gerne den samme kopier-og-indsæt-e-mail til alle, der henvender sig til dem om dette. De er dog ikke så hurtige til at svare, når Mastercards compliance-teams bliver kopieret ind i e-mails ... faktisk ... har de og deres betalingsbehandlere været tavse i en måned, siden jeg introducerede alle på den samme e-mail og bad dem om en forklaring på, hvordan de kan skjule spillebetalinger som shopping eller pengeoverførsler! Hvorfor i alverden skulle de ikke svare????????
Få casinoerne til at forsvare sig selv - jeg vil meget gerne høre deres synspunkter, hvis de mener, at det, de gør, er helt legitimt.
I had to come back to respond to the warning posted by the Head of Community on here - it is extremely important to give a wider view on this.
I understand the point about choice and people making the decision to play on such sites - totally understand that.
However, to deploy a payment mechanism to deliberately circumvent global banking rules and legally binding processing rules for all merchants on VISA/Mastercard is absolutely wrong regardless of what way you look at it. The fact is that players wouldn't be playing on these sites if this highly illegal route didnt exist. It is fraud - there is no other way of putting it - its defined as payment fraud by the payment schemes themselves. Payment fraud is equated to money laundering. The definition of money laundering is taking money your not supposed to be able to get and hiding/cleaning it using complex strategies - this is EXACTLY what these companies are doing. Why do you think Europol and AMLA are investigating numerous casinos(promoted on here actually)?
If CG feels that this is entirely acceptable then fine, but it needs to be called out. By promoting these sites on here you are condoning money laundering/fraud at a casino level - yet you still feel the need to put out warnings to players about "potential lawsuits and fraud accusations".
Ill give you an example - Santeda Group - they are happy to send the same copy and paste email to everyone who queries this with them. However, they are not so quick to reply when Mastercards compliance teams are copied into emails...in fact...they and their payment processors have been silent for a month since I introduced everyone on the same email and asked them for an explanation of how they can hide gambling payments as shopping or money transfers! Why on earth would they not be replying???????
Get the casinos on here to defend themselves - I'd more than welcome their viewpoints if they think what they are doing is perfectly legitimate.
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