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Kære mex26 , ifølge Turbo Wins-erklæringen ovenfor, såvel som den dokumentation du selv har fremlagt, nævner anmodningen om kontolukning fra den 29. september ikke ludomani. Derfor kan det ikke betragtes som en anmodning om selvudelukkelse, men snarere en almindelig kontolukning. I sådanne tilfælde, da casinoet ikke havde kendskab til eventuelle spilleproblemer, er det umuligt for Casino Guru at formidle nogen form for refusion.
Under en almindelig kontolukning antages det, at spilleren har fuld kontrol over sine spille- og forbrugsvaner og altid har mulighed for simpelthen ikke at spille, indtil kontoen er lukket (eller i teorien endda hvis den aldrig bliver lukket). Det er det samme som at have en dårlig oplevelse på en restaurant - du kan vælge ikke at komme tilbage.
Derfor er det meget vigtigt at nævne problemer med spil, og selv ifølge Casino Gurus værdier for spillersikkerhed kan vi ikke lægge 100% af ansvaret på casinoerne. Derfor beder vi altid spillerne om at tage det første meget vigtige (og nogle siger det sværeste) skridt og erkende, at de har et problem. Hvis det ikke sker, har vi ikke meget at gå ud fra. Først når problemet er nævnt, kan vi bede casinoet om at håndtere sådanne anmodninger hurtigst muligt.
Den 7. oktober nævnte du dog, at du har en ludomani, og casinoet bekræftede, at kontoen straks blev lukket. For at føre sagen videre, vil jeg gerne spørge om følgende:
Kære Turbo Wins Casino-team , kan I venligst bekræfte, at kontoen er permanent blokeret uden mulighed for genåbning, at kunden ikke vil kunne registrere sig igen med de samme loginoplysninger, og at al markedsføringskommunikation er ophørt?
Kære mex26 , som nævnt ovenfor kan jeg ikke anmode om refusion af indbetalinger foretaget før den 7. oktober. Medmindre der er andre beskeder, jeg ikke er bekendt med, hvor ludomani er blevet nævnt, lukker jeg denne klage, efter at casinoet har bekræftet, at selvudelukkelsesprocessen er afsluttet. Jeg forstår, at dette ikke er det resultat, du håbede på, men forhåbentlig kunne jeg forklare begrundelsen bag det, og hvordan det stemmer overens med Casino Gurus værdier og synspunkter. Lad mig venligst vide, hvis du har spørgsmål, eller hvis der er andet, jeg har overset. Tak.
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Dear mex26, according to the Turbo Wins statement above, as well as the evidence provided by yourself, the account closure request from the 29th September is not mentioning gambling addiction. Because of that, it can't be considered a self-exclusion request, but rather a regular account closure. In such case, since the casino had no knowledge of any possible gambling issues, it is impossible for Casino Guru to mediate any kind of refund.
During a regular account closure it is assumed the player is in full control of their gambling and spending habits, and always have the option of simply not playing, until the account is closed (or in theory even if it never gets closed). It is the same as having a bad experience in a restaurant - you can choose not to come back.
This is why mentioning gambling issues is very important, and even according to Casino Guru's player safety values, we can't put 100% of the responsibility on the casinos. Therefore, we always ask the players to make the first very important (and some say the hardest) step and acknowledge having a problem. If that does not happen, we don't have much to go on by. Only once the problem is stated, we can ask the casino to urgently deal with such requests.
However, on 7th October you have mentioned having the gambling addiction, and the casino confirmed the account has been promptly closed. To move this case forward, I would like to ask the following:
Dear Turbo Wins Casino Team, can you please confirm the account is blocked permanently with no option for reopening, the customer will not be able to re-register using the same credentials and that all the marketing communication has ceased?
Dear mex26, as per above, I will not be able to request a refund of the deposits made before 7th October. Unless there are other messages I am not aware of, where the gambling addiction has been mentioned, I will be closing this complaint after the casino confirms the self-exclusion process has been finished. I understand this is not the outcome you were hoping for, but hopefully I was able to explain the reasoning behind it, and how it aligns with Casino Guru values and views. Please, let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything else I may have missed. Thank you.
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