Hvis du mener denne klage , kan du dog se, at den blev lukket pĂ„ grund af din manglende reaktion. đ€·ââïž
Eller tager jeg fejl, tilfĂŠldigvis?
If you mean this complaint, you can see that it was closed due to your unresponsiveness, though. đ€·ââïž
Or am I mistaken, by any chance?
Bare lĂŠs "kasinopapirerne"
https://www.ftm.eu/articles/previous/150
hele forretningen er ulovlig og fuld af kriminelle. Hjemmesider som casino.guru tjener millioner som sÄkaldte "affiliates" og er ligeglade med individerne. De vil ikke hjÊlpe dig, alle henviser til vilkÄr og betingelser, som altid er ulovlige og ugyldige, fordi de for det meste ikke har nogen aftalepart involveret, da alle Þnsker at forblive anonyme, og ogsÄ fordi de er imod alle forbrugerbeskyttelsesrettigheder i hele Europa. Gambling stinker. Se den og sÞg efter en anden hobby. Dine penge er tabt. LÊr din lektie og gÞr det aldrig igen. Det er det bedste rÄd
Just read âthe casino papers"
https://www.ftm.eu/articles/previous/150
the whole business is illegal and full of criminals. Websites as casino.guru make millions as so called âaffiliates" and dont care about the individuals. They will not help you, everybody refers to terms and conditions always which are always illegal and null and void, because they mostly have no agreement party involved as everybody wants to stay anonymous and also because they are against every consumer protection rights all over europe. Gambling sucks. See it and search another hobby. Your money is lost. Learn your lesson and dont ever do it again. Thats the best advise
Gode âârĂ„d til at ĂŠndre hobbyen, hvis du ikke er i stand til at styre den, og det helt sikkert bliver noget andet end bare en hobby.
Bare vĂŠr opmĂŠrksom pĂ„, at vi altid tilstrĂŠber fair play og hjĂŠlper alle vores brugere, nĂ„r et casino forsĂžger at gĂžre noget uetisk. SelvfĂžlgelig kan vi kun inde i feltet, og nĂ„r vores hĂŠnder er bundet, er der desvĂŠrre ikke meget vi kan gĂžre. đ€·ââïž
Good advice to change the hobby, if you are not able to control it and it becomes something different than just a hobby, for sure.
Just please know that we always aim for fair play and help all of our users whenever a casino tries to do something unethical. Of course only inside the field we can, and whenever our hands are tied, unfortunately there is nothing much we can do. đ€·ââïž
Lad mig dele et par ord om min historie og hvordan ZetCasino besluttede at tage âŹ21.000 fra mig. Dette casino blev faktisk oprettet til mig af min fĂŠtter, og jeg oprettede en konto med bonuspenge. Det lykkedes mig at forvandle det til âŹ35.000 pĂ„ kort tid. Jeg foretog udbetalinger med en meget langsom og forsinket hastighed - âŹ500 fire dage om ugen, i alt omkring âŹ3.000 om mĂ„neden. Efter to mĂ„neder lukkede de pludselig min konto.
Jeg har nu Äbnet en sag med Casino Guru angÄende denne sag. Deres begrundelse for at lukke min konto var, at jeg havde fÄet adgang til den fra min fÊtters hjemme-IP-adresse. De hÊvdede, at dette rejste mistanke om, at jeg ikke var den eneste, der brugte kontoen, hvilket fÞrte til dens lukning.
Men lad os vĂŠre ĂŠrlige â mange streamere spiller med to personer pĂ„ kameraet pĂ„ samme tid. Selv streamere, der promoverede netop dette casino, har indrĂžmmet, at kasinoer giver dem andre regler. I mellemtiden er RabidNV gĂ„et konkurs, og de samme personer stĂ„r nu bag et andet selskab. Hold dig vĂŠk fra disse svindlere - der er langt mere pĂ„lidelige kasinoer derude.
Derudover havde jeg kontaktet en advokat fra Curaçao, som er specialiseret i disse spÞrgsmÄl. For mÄneder siden informerede han mig om, at Rabbidi NV allerede var gÄet konkurs, og der er ingen mÄde at fÄ pengene tilbage pÄ.
Med hensyn til Casino Guru, nÄr et problem ikke stemmer overens med deres interesser, forsÞger de at finde en Þjeblikkelig lÞsning, der aldrig favoriserer spilleren. Fordi de modtager tilknyttede kommissioner fra disse kasinoer, manipulerer de sager for at beskytte deres partnerskaber. Hvis du udtaler dig, nedgraderer de dit omdÞmme og stempler dig som "junior", sÄ andre brugere ikke kan se dine anmeldelser.
Her er alle de kasinoer i Rabidi , du ikke skal spille
https://www.casino-groups.com/rabidi-nv-casinos/
Jeg bad fra casino Guru om at genÄbne min sag for at forstÄ alt, hvad der skete, og det vil vÊre rart at lÊse det
https://kazinoguru-gr.com/zetcasino-o-logariasmos-cai-ta-chrhmata-toy-paicte
Det er alt fra mig. Pas pÄ og vÊr sikker!
Let me share a few words about my story and how ZetCasino decided to take âŹ21,000 from me. This casino was actually set up for me by my cousin, and I created an account using bonus money. I managed to turn it into âŹ35,000 in a short period. I was making withdrawals at a very slow and delayed rateââŹ500 four days a week, totaling around âŹ3,000 per month. After two months, they suddenly closed my account.
I have now opened a case with Casino Guru regarding this matter. Their reasoning for closing my account was that I had accessed it from my cousinâs home IP address. They claimed this raised suspicions that I wasnât the only one using the account, which led to its closure.
However, letâs be honestâmany streamers play with two people on camera at the same time. Even streamers who promoted this exact casino have admitted that casinos give them different rules. Meanwhile, RabidNV has gone bankrupt, and the same people are now behind another company. Stay away from these fraudstersâthere are far more reliable casinos out there.
Additionally, I had contacted a lawyer from Curaçao who specializes in these matters. Months ago, he informed me that Rabbidi N.V had already gone bankrupt, and there is no way to recover the money.
As for Casino Guru, whenever an issue doesnât align with their interests, they try to find an immediate solution that never favors the player. Because they receive affiliate commissions from these casinos, they manipulate cases to protect their partnerships. If you speak out, they downgrade your reputation and label you as a "junior " so that other users wonât see your reviews.
Here are all the casinos of Rabidi to dont play
https://www.casino-groups.com/rabidi-n-v-casinos/
I asked from casino Guru to reopen my case to undrestand all what happened and it will be nice to read it
https://kazinoguru-gr.com/zetcasino-o-logariasmos-cai-ta-chrhmata-toy-paicte
Thatâs all from me. Take care and stay safe!
Anche BassBet fa parte di Rabidi NV ??
Anche BassBet fa parte di Rabidi NV ??
Hej,
Jeg forestiller mig, at det mÄ have vÊret smertefuldt, og jeg er ked af, at din klage blev lukket som uberettiget.
Det er dog ikke en god idé at sammenligne en standardbruger med en streamer, der normalt har en eller anden form for forhold til casinoerne. Efter min mening er det ret meget som at sige, at sÄ lÊnge folk bliver drÊbt i tv-serien, kan jeg gÞre noget lignende.
SÄ lÊnge vilkÄrene klart angiver, at kun én konto er tilladt pr. bruger, er det vist ikke vÊrd at tage risikoen for at betragte denne regel for ikke at vÊre super vigtig.
Dengang nÊvnte min kollega ogsÄ svigagtig aktivitet. NÄ, jeg gÊtter pÄ, at du vil forblive sikker pÄ, at du ikke har lavet nogen fejl. Mens der pÄ den anden side er blevet fremlagt beviser.
Det er ikke sĂ„dan, at jeg ikke tror dig; Jeg synes bare, det ville vĂŠre rimeligt at tilfĂžje den anden side af sagen. Endnu en gang, jeg er ked af det. Pas pĂ„, og vĂŠr sikker! đ
Hello,
I imagine it must have been painful and I'm sorry your complaint was closed as unjustified.
However, comparing a standard user with a streamer who usually has some kind of relationship with the casinos, is not a good idea. In my opinion, it's pretty much like saying that as long as people are being killed in the tv series, I can do something similar.
As long as the terms clearly state only one account is permitted per user, I guess it is not worth the risk to consider this rule not to be super important.
Back then, my colleague also mentioned fraudulent activity. Well, I guess you will remain sure you have not made any mistake. While on the other hand, proofs have been provided.
It is not like I do not believe you; I just think it would be fair to add the other side of the case. Once more, I'm sorry. Take care, and stay safe! đ
Hej Radka.
Jeg vil selvfÞlgelig lave en sammenligning, for at vÊre streamer er ikke anderledes end at vÊre en almindelig spiller, og faktisk burde spillere respekteres endnu mere end streamere. Derfor skal det tydeligt fremgÄ af vilkÄrene, at reglerne ikke er de samme for streamere.
Spillere fortjener mere respekt - ikke kun fra dig, der skriver her, men ogsÄ fra streamere og kasinoer, fordi de spiller med deres RIGTIGE penge og ikke med affiliates
Der er ingen svigagtig aktivitet overhovedet, da jeg spillede fra min mobiltelefon. Det faktum, at vi havde den samme IP, fordi jeg var hjemme hos min fĂŠtter, er en anden sag. Det er ikke forbudt.
Jeg har dog genÄbnet sagen og sendt billeder af flere streamere, der spiller sammen, hvor den ene spiller fra en andens konto. SÄ din sammenligning med tv-serier er ikke gyldig.
Og jeg spÞrger dig Äbent her, sÄ alle kan se det. Har casino-guru partnerskab med disse kasinoer (Rabidi NV) Modtager det affiliate-kommissioner fra dem?
Hello, Radka.
Of course, I will make a comparison, because being a streamer is not different from being a regular player, and in fact, players should be respected even more than streamers. Thatâs why it should be clearly stated in the terms that the rules are not the same for streamers.
Players deserve more respectânot just from you writing here, but also from streamers and casinos because they play with their REAL money and not with Affiliates
There is no fraudulent activity whatsoever, as I was playing from my mobile phone. Now, the fact that we had the same IP because I was at my cousinâs house is another matter. That is not forbidden.
However, I have reopened the case and sent pictures of multiple streamers playing together, where one is playing from someone elseâs account. So your comparison with TV series is not valid.
And i am openly asking you here so that everyone can see it.Does casino Guru have partnership with these casinos (Rabidi N.V) Does it receive affiliate commissions from them ?
God dag til dig!
Jeg giver det en chance mere, hvis du ikke har noget imod det. Fordi jeg vil hjĂŠlpe dig.
Lad os se bort fra din mening om, at streamere er almindelige spillere, og lad os prÞve at gennemtÊnke logikken bag dit argument "det gÞr de ogsÄ."
Jeg mener, at pointen med reglerne er, at de gÊlder for dig, sÄ hvis andre overtrÊder dem (isÊr streamere), vil det ikke tjene som et argument for, at andre beslutter sig for at gÞre det samme pÄ egen hÄnd. Jeg kan forsikre dig om, at vores klageteam ikke vil bruge det som bevis, der understÞtter dit synspunkt.
MÄske har du lyst til at lÊse messen Gambling Codex, baseret pÄ hvilken klagerne behandles:
https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-players
Det er klart, at du foretrÊkker at holde fast i din sandhed; det er helt ok. Jeg ville bare nÞdig se dig have et andet problem i casinoet pÄ grund af din mening - mÄske. Hvis dette fÞles ubehageligt for dig, er jeg ked af, at du har det sÄdan.
Jeg agter at spare dig for fremtidige problemer. Led venligst ikke efter nogen anden grund.
IP'en og den slĂŠgtning, der spiller i det samme casino, det er noget andet. Jeg er enig i, at denne IP-match kun skal vĂŠre en del af hele sĂŠttet af beviser, der afslĂžrer spillerkollisioner eller duplikerede konti. Hver klage behandles separat, og der skal meget mere til for at afslutte klagen som uberettiget.
PÄ en eller anden mÄde Þnsker jeg dig held og lykke med din genÄbningsanmodning.
Med hensyn til kommissionerne â ja, vi har provisioner fra kasinoer med et godt omdĂžmme, og selvfĂžlgelig, pĂ„ trods af hvor chokerende det kan lyde, har kommissioner ingen indflydelse pĂ„ klageprocessen.
For at vĂŠre ĂŠrlig bruger vi det, du kalder et partnerskab, som lĂžftestang til at lĂžse spillernes problemer med kasinoer.
Sig til, hvis du finder det interessant, og hav det godt.
Good day to you!
I'll give it one more shot if you don't mind. Because I care to help you.
Let's leave aside your opinion on streamers being regular players, and let's try to think through the logic behind your argument "they do that too."
I believe the point with the rules is that they apply to you, so if anyone else is breaching them (especially streamers), it won't serve as an argument for others deciding to do the same on their own. I can assure you our Complaint Team won't use that as evidence supporting your point of view.
Perhaps you would like to read the fair Gambling Codex, based on which the complaints are handled:
https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-players
Obviously, you prefer to stick with your truth; that's perfectly ok. I would just hate to see you having another problem in the casino due to your opinion âperhaps. If this feels uncomfortable for you, I'm sorry you feel this way.
I intend to save you future issues. Kindly do not look for any other reason.
The IP and the relative playing in the same casino, that's something different. I agree that that IP match should be just one part of the whole set of proofs revealing players collisions or duplicate accounts. Every complaint is considered separately, and much more is needed to close the complaint as unjustified.
One way or another, I wish you luck with your reopen request.
As for the commissionsâyes, we do have commissions from casinos with good reputations, and of course, despite how shocking it may sound, commissions have no impact on the complaint process.
To be honest, we use what you call a partnership as leverage for resolving players' issues with casinos.
Let me know if you find it interesting, and stay well.
Goddag Radka,
Tillad mig at svare og fokusere pÄ et par vigtige punkter:
Du nÊvnte, at et IP-match alene ikke er nok til at retfÊrdiggÞre at lukke en klage. Men i mit tilfÊlde blev klagen lukket udelukkende baseret pÄ IP-adressen, uden nogen anden begrundelse. SÄ ifÞlge hvad du selv har anfÞrt, har jeg ret, og min konto bÞr genÄbnes.
Jeg har ikke modtaget nogen officiel forklaring fra kasinoet. NÄr jeg forsÞger at kontakte deres live support, hÄner de mig og svarer med fÞlgende besked: "inside personlig beslutning uden at give nogen grund til det". Dette er hverken professionelt eller acceptabelt.
Da virksomheden skiftede hÊnder, genÄbnede de konti for spillere, der tidligere var blevet udelukket - uden samtykke fra spillerne selv. Det er fuldstÊndig ulovligt.
Jeg forstÄr, at det ikke er forkert at modtage kommissioner fra kasinoer, men du kan ikke hÊvde, at du er fuldstÊndig objektiv under sÄdanne omstÊndigheder - og det er forstÄeligt. Du skal dog ogsÄ erkende konsekvenserne af den manglende objektivitet.
Hvad angÄr Rabidi, lad os vÊre Êrlige - det har aldrig haft et godt ry. Der er utallige klager over dem, og desvÊrre ser det ud til, at du kÊmper for at holde deres vurderinger kunstigt hÞje.
Bare at vĂŠre ĂŠrlig her.
Good day Radka,
Please allow me to respond, focusing on a few important points:
You mentioned that an IP match alone is not enough to justify closing a complaint. However, in my case, the complaint was closed based solely on the IP address, without any other justification. So, according to what you yourself stated, I am right and my account should be reopened.
I have not received any official explanation from the casino. When I try to contact their live support, they mock me and respond with the following message: "inside personal decision without providing any reason of it". This is neither professional nor acceptable.
When the company changed hands, they reopened accounts of players who had previously been banned â without the consent of the players themselves. That is completely illegal.
I understand that itâs not wrong to receive commissions from casinos, but you cannot claim to be completely objective under such circumstances â and thatâs understandable. However, you must also acknowledge the consequences of that lack of objectivity.
As for Rabidi, letâs be honest â it never had a good reputation. There are countless complaints about them, and unfortunately, you seem to be struggling to keep their ratings artificially high.
Just being honest here.
Hej,
Jeg nÊvnte specifikt IP-matchet, for ifÞlge infoen blev din klage ikke afvist udelukkende baseret pÄ et IP-match. Det er ikke, hvad mine kolleger gÞr.
"Mange tak for afklaringen ZetCasino Team.
KÊre miltoskaz , kasinoet har givet os omfattende beviser for svigagtig aktivitet, der fÄr os til at tro, at de skridt, som kasinoet har taget i denne sag, er berettigede. Af den grund vil denne klage nu blive afvist. Tak for din forstÄelse, jeg beklager, at vi ikke kunne vÊre til mere hjÊlp ved denne lejlighed. TÞv ikke med at kontakte os, hvis du stÞder pÄ problemer med dette eller et andet casino i fremtiden."
Som jeg sagde, det var mere komplekst, er jeg bange for.
Hello,
I specifically mentioned the IP match, because according to the info, your complaint was not rejected solely based an IP match. This is not what my colleagues do.
"Thank you very much for the clarification ZetCasino Team.
Dear miltoskaz, the casino has provided us with comprehensive evidence of fraudulent activity that leads us to believe that the steps the casino has taken in this case are justified. Due to that reason, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future."
As I said, this is was more complex, I'm afraid.
Hej,
Jeg vil gerne pÄpege, at jeg aldrig blev forsynet med detaljerede beviser vedrÞrende min sag - det eneste, jeg modtog, var nogle IP-adresser. Jeg mener ikke, at det kvalificerer som "omfattende beviser" som sagt.
Derudover har du ikke adresseret det faktum, at jeg blev blokeret fra livechatten og hÄnet af supportteamet. Jeg vil rigtig gerne vide, hvordan du fortolker sÄdan adfÊrd fra et sÄkaldt "pÄlideligt" kasino.
Du ignorerede ogsÄ fuldstÊndig et meget alvorligt problem: Konti blev genÄbnet uden spillernes samtykke, selvom de var blevet lukket af personlige eller andre Ärsager. Dette er klart en krÊnkelse af privatlivets fred og politik.
Til sidst mÄ jeg spÞrge:
Bliver kasinoets hĂžje rating fastholdt, fordi dets tilknyttede partnerskaber er mere vĂŠrdifulde end andre kasinoers?
Det er svÊrt at tro, at du ikke var klar over, at et firma som Rabidi var pÄ vej mod konkurs i de sidste 1,5 Är - og alligevel blev det ved med at blive promoveret som en trovÊrdig operatÞr.
Jeg ser frem til et klart og grundigt svar pÄ alle ovenstÄende punkter.
Hello,
I would like to point out that I was never provided with detailed evidence regarding my case â the only thing I received were some IP addresses. I donât believe that qualifies as "comprehensive evidence" as stated.
Additionally, you havenât addressed the fact that I was blocked from the live chat and mocked by the support team. Iâd really like to know how you interpret such behavior from a so-called "reliable" casino.
You also completely ignored a very serious issue: accounts were reopened without the playersâ consent, even though they had been closed for personal or other reasons. This is clearly a violation of privacy and policy.
Lastly, I have to ask:
Is the casinoâs high rating being maintained because its affiliate partnerships are more valuable than those of other casinos?
Itâs hard to believe that you werenât aware that a company like Rabidi was heading toward bankruptcy for the past 1.5 years â and yet, it continued to be promoted as a trustworthy operator.
I look forward to a clear and thorough response to all the above points.
Hej. Mener du mÄske til et bestemt casino? Nogle problemer der?
MÄske kunne vi hjÊlpe; lad os det vide.
Hey. Are you referring to some specific casino, perhaps? Any issues there?
Maybe we could help; let us know.
Hej,
Nogle af jer vil mÄske finde denne nylige artikel interessant om Rabidi, Araxio, Adonio og Novaforge, som alle ser ud til at vÊre knyttet til de samme personer:
https://www.investigate-europe.eu/posts/shady-bets-blacklisted-gambling-sites-connected-to-soft2bet-award-winning-european-firm
Hello,
Some of you may find this recent article interesting about Rabidi, Araxio, Adonio and Novaforge which all appear to be linked to same people:
https://www.investigate-europe.eu/posts/shady-bets-blacklisted-gambling-sites-connected-to-soft2bet-award-winning-european-firm
Hej,
Jeg vil gerne pÄpege, at jeg aldrig blev forsynet med detaljerede beviser vedrÞrende min sag - det eneste, jeg modtog, var nogle IP-adresser. Jeg mener ikke, at det kvalificerer som "omfattende beviser" som sagt.
Derudover har du ikke adresseret det faktum, at jeg blev blokeret fra livechatten og hÄnet af supportteamet. Jeg vil rigtig gerne vide, hvordan du fortolker sÄdan adfÊrd fra et sÄkaldt "pÄlideligt" kasino.
Du ignorerede ogsÄ fuldstÊndig et meget alvorligt problem: Konti blev genÄbnet uden spillernes samtykke, selvom de var blevet lukket af personlige eller andre Ärsager. Dette er klart en krÊnkelse af privatlivets fred og politik.
Til sidst mÄ jeg spÞrge:
Bliver kasinoets hĂžje rating fastholdt, fordi dets tilknyttede partnerskaber er mere vĂŠrdifulde end andre kasinoers?
Det er svÊrt at tro, at du ikke var klar over, at et firma som Rabidi var pÄ vej mod konkurs i de sidste 1,5 Är - og alligevel blev det ved med at blive promoveret som en trovÊrdig operatÞr.
Jeg ser frem til et klart og grundigt svar pÄ alle ovenstÄende punkter.
Hello,
I would like to point out that I was never provided with detailed evidence regarding my case â the only thing I received were some IP addresses. I donât believe that qualifies as "comprehensive evidence" as stated.
Additionally, you havenât addressed the fact that I was blocked from the live chat and mocked by the support team. Iâd really like to know how you interpret such behavior from a so-called "reliable" casino.
You also completely ignored a very serious issue: accounts were reopened without the playersâ consent, even though they had been closed for personal or other reasons. This is clearly a violation of privacy and policy.
Lastly, I have to ask:
Is the casinoâs high rating being maintained because its affiliate partnerships are more valuable than those of other casinos?
Itâs hard to believe that you werenât aware that a company like Rabidi was heading toward bankruptcy for the past 1.5 years â and yet, it continued to be promoted as a trustworthy operator.
I look forward to a clear and thorough response to all the above points.
God dag til dig.
Jeg tror, ââdu skal stille disse spĂžrgsmĂ„l til den person, der tager sig af din genĂ„bnede klage i fĂžrste omgang.
Jeg vil dog gĂžre mit bedste for at besvare et par punkter alligevel, selvom det ser ud til, at du allerede har besluttet dig og faktisk ikke er interesseret i dialog. Jeg er ikke din fjende her.
1) NÄr der er tale om bedrageri, deler vi ikke detaljer med den pÄgÊldende betaler.
Leder af klagesektionen:
"DesvÊrre er det ikke alle spillere, der spiller efter reglerne. Nogle spillere engagerer sig bevidst i aktiviteter, der ikke kun er forbudt af vilkÄr og betingelser, men som potentielt er ulovlige, falder ind under de typiske definitioner af svindel.
Disse spillere ved, fÞr de indsender en klage, at de har brudt reglerne og hÄber simpelthen, at operatÞren ikke vil have nok beviser til at overbevise en tredjepart om, at de har brudt vilkÄrene.
Hvis vi viser beviserne fra casinoet til disse spillere, sÄ vil de nÊste gang vÊre mere sofistikerede, og for casinoet vil det vÊre meget svÊrere at fange dem.
PĂ„ grund af det kan kasinoerne eller vi ikke dele noget af beviserne (samme som regulatoren) "
2) "Derudover har du ikke adresseret det faktum, at jeg blev blokeret fra livechatten og hÄnet af supportteamet. Jeg vil virkelig gerne vide, hvordan du fortolker sÄdan adfÊrd fra et sÄkaldt "pÄlideligt" casino."
Dette er noget, vi ikke kan bruge som begrundelse for at sÊnke sikkerhedsindekset, isÊr baseret pÄ afviste klager. Brugeroplevelser er en nÞglefaktor, som dog holdes adskilt ved brugervurdering. SÄdan har det altid vÊret.
3) "Du ignorerede ogsÄ fuldstÊndig et meget alvorligt problem: Konti blev genÄbnet uden spillernes samtykke, selvom de var blevet lukket af personlige eller andre Ärsager. Dette er klart en krÊnkelse af privatlivets fred og politik." Jeg er ikke bekendt med hele klagerne, men det afhÊnger vel af det endelige resultat af klagerne og ogsÄ af den mÄde, disse konti blev lukket pÄ.
4) "Opretholdes kasinoets hĂžje rating, fordi dets tilknyttede partnerskaber er mere vĂŠrdifulde end andre kasinoers?" SelvfĂžlgelig ikke, det eneste, vi virkelig kan bruge, er palyers - ikke kasinoer.
5) "Det er svÊrt at tro, at du ikke var klar over, at et firma som Rabidi var pÄ vej mod konkurs i de sidste 1,5 Är - og alligevel blev det ved med at blive promoveret som en trovÊrdig operatÞr." GrundlÊggende, da spillernes klager er blevet lÞst, har vi ingen beviser for, at kasinoerne i gruppen nogensinde har tÊnkt sig ikke at betale ud. Hvilket er hovedformÄlet med Sikkerhedsindekset.
Jeg synes virkelig, du skal tage en snak med mÊgleren. Jeg har ingen mÄde at hjÊlpe dig her pÄ forummet, er jeg bange for.
Jeg ville elske at gĂžre det; lad mig vide, hvis du har nogle ideer.
Good day to you.
I guess you should ask those questions of the person taking care of your reopened complaint in the first place.
However, I'll do my best to answer a few points anyway, despite it seeming you already made up your mind and are not actually interested in dialog. I'm not your enemy here.
1) When fraud is involved, we are not sharing details with the payer in question.
Head of Complaint Section:
"Unfortunately, not every player plays by the rules. Some players are knowingly engaging in activity that is not only prohibited by terms and conditions but potentially illegal, falling under the typical definitions of fraud.
These players know before submitting a complaint that theyâve breached the rules and are simply hoping that the operator will not have enough evidence to convince a third party that they have broken terms.
If we show the evidence from the casino to these players, then the next time they will be more sophisticated, and for the casino, it will be much harder to catch them.
Because of that, the casinos or we cannot share any of the evidence (same as the regulator) "
2) "Additionally, you havenât addressed the fact that I was blocked from the live chat and mocked by the support team. Iâd really like to know how you interpret such behavior from a so-called "reliable" casino."
This is something we cannot use as a reason for lowering the Safety Index especially based on rejected complaints. User experiences are a key factor yet kept separately at user rating. It has always been like that.
3) "You also completely ignored a very serious issue: accounts were reopened without the playersâ consent, even though they had been closed for personal or other reasons. This is clearly a violation of privacy and policy." I'm not familiar with the whole complaints, but I guess it depends on the final outcome of the complaints and also on the way those accounts were closed.
4) "Is the casinoâs high rating being maintained because its affiliate partnerships are more valuable than those of other casinos?" Of course not, the only thing we can realy on are palyers - not casinos.
5) "Itâs hard to believe that you werenât aware that a company like Rabidi was heading toward bankruptcy for the past 1.5 years â and yet, it continued to be promoted as a trustworthy operator." Basically, since the players complaints have been resolved, we have no proof the casinos in the group have ever intended not to pay out. Which is the main purpose of the Safety index.
I really think you should get into a discussion with the mediator. I have no way of helping you out here on the forum, I'm afraid.
I'd love to do so; let me know if you have some ideas.
KĂŠre Radka,
Tak for dit svar, selvom jeg mĂ„ sige, at ingen af ââdine svar faktisk var klare eller tilfredsstillende.
Jeg forstÄr, at tilknyttede partnerskaber indbringer en betydelig mÊngde af indtÊgter, og det er ved at blive ret indlysende, at de har stÞrre vÊgt end stemmen fra en individuel spiller, der udtrykker bekymringer her. Det er i sig selv skuffende.
Hvis svindel er sĂ„ kritisk et spĂžrgsmĂ„l, skal vilkĂ„rene og betingelserne skrives i et klart, detaljeret sprog â isĂŠr hvad angĂ„r, hvad der prĂŠcist udgĂžr en overtrĂŠdelse. Lige nu er de alt for vage, hvilket efterlader spillere i mĂžrke og prisgivet vilkĂ„rlige beslutninger. Gennemsigtighed er afgĂžrende, hvis du forventer, at folk stoler pĂ„ dine vurderinger eller de casinoer, du anbefaler.
NĂ„r en konto er suspenderet eller lukket pĂ„ grund af en formodet overtrĂŠdelse, fortjener spilleren en ordentlig forklaring pĂ„, hvad der prĂŠcist skete â ikke en autoritĂŠr besked, der siger: "Din konto er lukket, fordi vi besluttede det." Det er ikke sĂ„dan en professionel eller etisk platform skal fungere.
Derudover, hvis der er forskellige regler for spillere og for streamere (hvilket er meget tydeligt), skal det tydeligt fremgÄ af vilkÄrene. Spillere fortjener at vide, at de ikke bliver holdt til de samme standarder som dem, der promoverer kasinoet offentligt.
NÄr der er sÄ mange klager fra spillere over den samme operatÞr, bÞr du undersÞge det dybere, ligesom andre betroede platforme som AskGamblers gÞr. Det er uansvarligt at ignorere mÞnstre for dÄrlig behandling, blot fordi klager er "afvist".
I mit sĂŠrlige tilfĂŠlde blev indskud accepteret uden problemer i et stykke tid. I det Ăžjeblik det blev klart, at jeg ikke ville spille penge, men i stedet planlagde at hĂŠve dem, blev min konto pludselig frosset og lukket. Alene det rejser mange rĂžde flag.
Du siger ogsĂ„, at du gerne vil hjĂŠlpe mig â men alt hvad du har gjort indtil videre er at henvise mig til en anden eller gentage virksomhedens politik. At ville hjĂŠlpe og faktisk hjĂŠlpe er to vidt forskellige ting. PĂ„ dette tidspunkt fĂžles det mere som om, at du vil virke hjĂŠlpsom end virkelig at stĂžtte en spiller, der tydeligvis er blevet mishandlet.
Hvis du virkelig Þnskede at hjÊlpe spillere, burde CasinoGuru-mÊgleren mere fungere som en uformel reprÊsentant eller fortaler for spilleren - ved at sige, "Du skal bevise fÞlgende for at fÄ din konto genÄbnet," og hjÊlpe med at guide denne proces. SÄdan ville reel support se ud - ikke kun omdirigering og side med kasinoet som standard.
Dear Radka,
Thank you for your response, although I must say that none of your answers were actually clear or satisfactory.
I understand that affiliate partnerships bring in a significant amount of revenue, and it's becoming quite obvious that they hold more weight than the voice of an individual player expressing concerns here. That, in itself, is disappointing.
If fraud is such a critical issue, then the terms and conditions should be written in clear, detailed languageâespecially regarding what exactly constitutes a violation. Right now, they are overly vague, which leaves players in the dark and at the mercy of arbitrary decisions. Transparency is essential if you expect people to trust your ratings or the casinos you recommend.
When an account is suspended or closed for a supposed violation, the player deserves a proper explanation of what exactly happenedânot some authoritarian message stating, "Your account is closed because we decided so." This is not how a professional or ethical platform should operate.
Additionally, if there are different rules for players and for streamers (which is very apparent), that should be clearly stated in the terms. Players deserve to know they are not being held to the same standards as those promoting the casino publicly.
When there are this many complaints from players about the same operator, you should be investigating deeper, like other trusted platforms such as AskGamblers do. Ignoring patterns of mistreatment simply because complaints are "rejected" is irresponsible.
In my particular case, deposits were accepted without issue for a while. The moment it became clear that I wasnât going to gamble the funds, but instead planned to withdraw them, my account was suddenly frozen and closed. That alone raises a lot of red flags.
Also, you say youâd love to help meâyet all youâve done so far is point me toward someone else or repeat company policy. Wanting to help and actually helping are two very different things. At this point, it feels more like you want to appear helpful than to truly support a player who has clearly been mistreated.
If you really wanted to help players, the CasinoGuru mediator should act more like an informal representative or advocate for the playerâsaying, "You need to prove the following in order to have your account reopened," and assisting in guiding that process. Thatâs what real support would look likeânot just redirecting and siding with the casino by default.
KĂŠre bruger,
Selvom du forsÞger at anvende logiske rÊsonnementer til den daglige drift af kasinoet, er det ikke sÄdan, det fungerer. Det ville vÊre vidunderligt at leve i sÄdan en perfekt verden. Jeg hÄber, at du nu kan se, hvorfor jeg satte mig for at tydeliggÞre for dig sondringen mellem, hvordan tingene er, og hvordan de burde vÊre.
Jeg prĂžvede dog endnu en gang at forklare dig, at den vĂŠrste fejl er at antage snarere end at vide. Fordi du er en almindelig spiller og ikke en streamer, er du forpligtet til at fĂžlge de skrevne regler uden undtagelse. Med den strategi burde du vĂŠre sikker.
Bare en hurtig pÄmindelse om, at det er standard forretningsprocedure for udbetalingsanmodninger, ikke indbetalinger, at igangsÊtte kontroller og undersÞgelser. Kasinoer Þnsker nogle gange at tillade spillere at spille for at indsamle beviser til det endelige showdown. Det afhÊnger dog altid af de aktuelle omstÊndigheder.
DesvĂŠrre fĂžler spillere i din situation ofte, at alle klare forklaringer er upassende, og det giver mening.
Jeg vil ikke vÊre uenig med dig. Jeg Êrer det og hÄber det bedste for dig. Jeg vil gerne hjÊlpe dig med at styre uden om de samme farlige formodninger, nÄr du spiller pÄ kasinoer, uanset hvad du mÄtte komme til at tro.
Vi er her for at hjĂŠlpe, hvis du nogensinde har brug for det.
Dear user,
Although you attempt to apply logical reasoning to the day-to-day operations of the casino, this is not how it operates. It would be wonderful to live in such a perfect world. I hope you now see why I set out to clarify for you the distinction between the way things are and how they ought to be.
However, I tried to explain to you once more that the worst mistake is to assume rather than know. Because you are a regular player and not a streamer, you are required to follow the written rules without exception. With that strategy, you ought to be safe.
Just a quick reminder that it is standard business procedure for withdrawal requests, not deposits, to initiate checks and investigations. Casinos sometimes want to allow players to play in order to collect evidence for the final showdown. It always depends on the circumstances at hand, though.
Regretfully, players in your situation frequently feel that all clear explanations are inappropriate, and it makes sense.
I will not disagree with you. I honor that and hope the best for you. I want to help you steer clear of the same dangerous presumptions when playing in casinos, regardless of what you may come to believe.
We are here to help if you ever need it.
KĂŠre Radka,
Tak for dit svar. Jeg forstÄr fuldt ud, at et kasino opererer baseret pÄ dets egne vilkÄr og procedurer. Jeg fÞler dog et behov for at forsvare min holdning, da visse punkter fortjener yderligere afklaring.
For det fĂžrste har jeg aldrig benĂŠgtet eksistensen af ââregler. TvĂŠrtimod strĂŠber jeg altid efter at fĂžlge dem til punkt og prikke. Det faktum, at jeg er en almindelig spiller og ikke en streamer, betyder ikke, at jeg skal behandles med mindre fleksibilitet eller tillid. Anvendelse af regler selektivt eller med tilbagevirkende kraft rejser gyldige bekymringer og forstĂŠrker fĂžlelsen af ââuretfĂŠrdig behandling.
Men for at reglerne skal vÊre retfÊrdige og effektive, skal de vÊre klart angivet, detaljerede og skrevet med prÊcision. En spiller bÞr ikke straffes eller granskes for pÄstÄede overtrÊdelser, der er vagt defineret eller ikke eksplicit angivet. Gennemsigtighed er en kernekomponent i tillid og gensidig respekt mellem spilleren og platformen.
Jeg forstĂ„r ogsĂ„, at checks er standardpraksis under udbetalinger. Ikke desto mindre, nĂ„r sĂ„danne checks fĂžrst udlĂžses efter en betydelig gevinst eller et forsĂžg pĂ„ at hĂŠve â selvom der ikke var nogen problemer under indbetalinger eller spil â skaber det indtryk af en "fĂŠlde", som ikke afspejler casinoet eller dets praksis godt.
Jeg gĂžr ikke antagelser, og jeg forsĂžger heller ikke at diktere, hvordan et kasino skal fungere. Jeg beskriver blot min oplevelse og fremhĂŠver de aspekter, jeg finder problematiske - respektfuldt, men klart.
Mit mÄl er ikke konfrontation, men retfÊrdig og ligebehandling. Derfor beder jeg om, at min sag bliver gennemgÄet objektivt, uden skÊvheder baseret pÄ "normer", der alt for ofte modarbejder spillerens interesse.
Til sidst vil jeg gerne rejse et yderligere spÞrgsmÄl:
Med hensyn til Rabidis konkurs, er det ekstremt svÊrt at tro, at dette ikke var kendt af dig pÄ forhÄnd. Hvis et sÄ alvorligt problem eksisterede, burde det vÊre blevet kommunikeret gennemsigtigt og hurtigt til spillerne. SÄdanne udeladelser skader platformens trovÊrdighed alvorligt.
PÄ forhÄnd tak, og jeg stÄr til rÄdighed for enhver yderligere afklaring.
Dear Radka,
Thank you for your response. I fully understand that a casino operates based on its own terms and procedures. However, I feel the need to defend my position, as certain points deserve further clarification.
First of all, I have never denied the existence of rules. On the contrary, I always strive to follow them to the letter. The fact that I am a regular player and not a streamer does not mean I should be treated with less flexibility or trust. Applying rules selectively or retroactively raises valid concerns and reinforces the feeling of unfair treatment.
However, for rules to be fair and effective, they must be clearly stated, detailed, and written with precision. A player should not be penalized or scrutinized for alleged violations that are vaguely defined or not explicitly listed. Transparency is a core component of trust and mutual respect between the player and the platform.
I also understand that checks are standard practice during withdrawals. Nevertheless, when such checks are triggered only after a significant win or an attempt to withdraw â while there were no issues during deposits or gameplay â it creates the impression of a "trap," which does not reflect well on the casino or its practices.
I am not making assumptions, nor am I trying to dictate how a casino should operate. I am simply describing my experience and highlighting the aspects I find problematic â respectfully but clearly.
My goal is not confrontation, but fair and equal treatment. That is why I am asking that my case be reviewed objectively, without biases based on "norms" that too often work against the playerâs interest.
Finally, I would like to raise an additional issue:
Regarding the bankruptcy of Rabidi, it is extremely difficult to believe that this was not known to you in advance. If such a serious problem existed, it should have been communicated transparently and promptly to the players. Such omissions severely damage the platformâs credibility.
Thank you in advance, and I remain available for any further clarification.
God dag til dig!
Jeg er dog stadig enig i nĂŠsten alt hvad du skrev; Jeg tror, ââdet ville vĂŠre godt at gentage et par ting:
FÞrst og fremmest vil du ikke kunne bede om at fÄ din klage genÄbnet her pÄ forummet. Gjorde du som jeg sagde til dig, tak? Jeg ser ingen Äben klage fra dig, sÄ jeg vil gerne forklare en mulig misforstÄelse pÄ forhÄnd.
Det skal du gĂžre pĂ„ egen hĂ„nd i din klagetrĂ„d . đ Fokuser pĂ„ at forklare, hvilke nye beviser du har indsamlet. Det er dybest set formĂ„let med genĂ„bningsfunktionen, isĂŠr med sĂ„ gamle sager. Ellers frygter jeg, at sagen ikke bliver genoptaget sĂ„ let.
For det andet er klageprocessen virkelig ikke designet til at lĂžse dĂ„rlige brugeroplevelser eller mangel pĂ„ anstĂŠndig behandling, som spillere har modtaget fra nogen eller principper. Det er fokuseret pĂ„ undersĂžgelsesspĂžrgsmĂ„l baseret pĂ„ Fair Gambling Codex . đ
Hvis du gennemser det, vil du stÞde pÄ de situationer, der er beskrevet fra "normerne", eller bedre sagt, industriens standardposition.
Dette er igen mit Êrlige forsÞg pÄ at forhindre misforstÄelser. VÊr venlig ikke at betragte det som noget andet, tak.
Good day to you!
However, I still agree with almost everything you wrote; I think it would be good to repeat a few things:
First of all, you won't be able to ask for your complaint to be reopened here on the forum. Did you do as I instructed you, please? I see no open complaint of yours so I would like to explain a possible misunderstanding in advance.
You need to do that on your own, in your complaint thread. đ Focus on explaining what new evidence you have gathered. That's basically the purpose of the reopening feature, especially with such old cases. Otherwise, I fear the case won't be reopened so easily.
Secondly, the complaint process is really not designed to resolve poor user experiences or lack of decent treatment players received from anyone or principles. It is focused on investigation matters based Fair Gambling Codex. đ
If you browse it, you will come across the situations described from the "norms," or better said, the industry standard position.
This is again my honest attempt to prevent missunderstandings. Kindly do not consider that as anything else, please.
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