Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (side 731)

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need some help

@Paul did you ever have one called crypto plaza? I have it in my Chase account but crypto is auto blocked so I assume digital goods again

Hi Jim,

I never had that one mate..

No worries - it was via 30 bet. Chase takes a while but they will get them raised ultimately when going goods not received the onus is then on the merchant to provide evidence and most times they just don’t respond.

Hi! I have a few questions regarding Smpaypf. Is there any way I could contact you privately?

We’re mainly interested in understanding which casinos they process payments for, and we'd also appreciate it if you could share screenshots of any related transactions.

Polina, the author of this post.

polina.volkova@aripaev.ee

Hey guys. I haven’t used this forum in ages but I used to be a regular poster. I’ll share my story to see if anyone benefits from it. I’m registered on Gamstop, have been for probably 3-4 years now. When I was going through a period of depression I just googled ‘how to gamble when banned on Gamstop’ and that’s when I come across these corrupt websites. I lost around £5000 over the period of a few weeks of transactions by debit card, £600 on my credit card. I appreciate some of your losses are significantly more but for me that’s still alot of money. I felt so ill. These companies will not pay out at all if your withdrawal exceeds a certain amount. They pay out small amounts to keep you coming back, they have 0 interests in paying out big claims. I’ve used about 20 of these sites. I never managed to recoup any of the funds that were paid by bank transfer. I did however get alot of refunds from transactions that were paid on my card and credit cards. I raised chargebacks with Barclays, and a lot of the providers refunded the chargebacks, not all but I would say maybe 50% of them. My credit card raised it as fraud and refunded the amount in full, after that I decided to just close my credit card down because I didn’t want to get into that mess again. I would say I raised over 100 chargebacks with Barclays, some with nationwide, one or two with Lloyds. The bank doesn’t like you charging back, if you chargeback a few times they’re fine with it, but when I did it on barclays I did so many, eventually they did close my bank down. But I don’t really care as it wasn’t my main bank and I got a bit of money back. So overall I lost about 5,6000 but recouped around 3 grand. You can complain to financial ombudsman for help, they will help, but they need to see you’ve gone down every route with your bank first to rectify the issue. Revolut seem to be the hardest bank to claw back funds, as they have their final decision, but I just believe they act in this manner as they don’t want to look bad by allowing multiple chargebacks go through. I feel all banks should let you open as many chargebacks as you feel. It’s not always the bank who decide if you get the money or not, it’s the provider who sends it back as they know what they’re doing is illegal and it’s easier for them to refund it than deal with the consequences. I really hope you guys get some of your money back. I’m happy that I can no longer gamble, I’m still banned on Gamstop, and I would rather sit in my room miserable than give these crooks any of my money as they are not a proper system, to be honest all gambling is bad anyway. Something needs to be done more to protect us gamblers because it was SO easy to open an account and deposit a ton of money abroad to these scammers. They target vulnerable individuals by having a non Gamstop website as they know they’re desperate to play. In the end guys I’m down about £2500-3000, I don’t have an exact figure, but that’s it now. I’m never going to get that money back, it’s impossible and it’s been a long time now, this happened just under a year ago. I’m greatful I managed to recoup some of it as it really did help the financial mess I got myself into. I see a few people are saying about going bankrupt, please consider other options before doing so. Becsuse of the debts I racked up from gambling etc from other credit cards overdrafts in the past, I took out a debt relief order which wipes your debts after 12 months and in that game they can’t contact you. I’m now coming up to my 12 months and I’m happy because it stays on your file for 6 years so I can’t obtain credit anyway and even if I can it will be a low amount. You need to consider all options if you’re a gambler, get someone to help with your finances, speak to debt advisory companies; anything you may feel which will help, but whatever you do don’t give any of your money to gambling sites. It’s just not worth it. Even the UK ones, someone out there wins yeah, but chances it’s you? Probably not. Even when I won a good amount of money, what did I do? I spent more, because for me it wasn’t just about being greedy, it was about filling a sad place in my heart, when I was gambling I didn’t feel so alone, it’s very addicting and to be honest every time I feel low and I think about gambling, I just think back to the times where I couldn’t even afford to eat, I would email the companies like Ladbrokes saying about my problem and I had no money for food because all my money was gone, I would feel SO ill from what I had did and they would just say sorry we can’t help. I felt sad, as I felt like I’d given them so much to not even get help back but it’s a company remember. I was too ashamed to talk to anyone. I hope my story helps some of you, I had a severe problem and I feel like I’m at the better end of it now and I hope you guys eventually reach a good point to & for me and everyone else, I hope it lasts.

Ok was it they must change it all the time if one payment method fails they try multiple times though that is the thing yes you will nail it once the bank raises them that is it in most cases

Hej Polino,

Jeg ville have en masse information til dig.

I have 3 payments totalling $894.45 to these clowns

Rodeo Cay Enterprises

https://www.rodeocayenterprises.com/

based in Lagos 🙄

what a complete farce all this is. How can any bank/FI not look at that and say it’s not a scam

What I have noticed on this relapse and doing them again is the companies seemed better disguised so difficult to track down. My first go the company name was pretty much searchable online.

I followed up on your last post its under review💁yes they are getting sneakier as they will learn from past experiences on how to make it unrecoverable I am surprised FCA regulated payment platforms are involved in it with the Crypto payments

Hello,

Regarding lux-books.com, did they come back with anything or did they just let the 90 days go with no response and u won the chargeback?

my 90 days are up next week and have not heard anything from my bank yet.

Anyone got any updates for GAIW-DEPOSIT, London?

I never found any contact details for them. I have requested it to be refunded via a charge back, but not heard from my bank yet

Hej, har de svaret dig, eller har de refunderet dig fra Online DG?

Har nogen oplysninger om TRNDBM, Cardiff?

what did you say to Elegro?

what was showing on the bank to know it was Elegro?

Hi Paul

raised a complaint to capital one after they did what?

I’m currently trying to put together a case with them but have no clue where to start

On Chase it shows as personal care items, so I have said it was a voucher code to be able to redeem elsewhere. Made up an email address

to to get Chase to start the chargeback

This is it, I did wonder if they think without being contacted then chargebacks will fail? I have had to make up email addresses and hopefully no of them challenge. I have always said on my previous account if you get banks to do the chargeback then you should win but others struggle to get banks to actually do them