Kære Crowngreen Casino , tak for din forklaring. Jeg vil gerne påpege, at spilleren, når de indgiver en klage gennem Casino Guru, skal udfylde det omstridte beløb. I den periode er mange spillere i følelsesmæssig nød - vrede, desperate, bange... og det beløb, de indtaster, er ofte forkert. Nogle gange er det kun en grov idé om, hvad der er gået tabt, da de ikke kan huske det nøjagtige beløb, eller de ikke kan tjekke det, fordi deres konto er blokeret. Og nogle spillere øger endda det reelle beløb ved at tilføje alle mulige former for "følelsesmæssig skade", som de føler, de har til gode. Derfor kan vi ikke tage det omstridte beløb, som spilleren har indtastet, som endeligt.
Ovenstående er grunden til, at jeg bad om kassererhistorikken, som jeg normalt gør i tilfælde af sen lukning af konti. Alt dette er en del af processen for at sikre fair behandling af begge sider. Vi ønsker ikke at presse casinoet til at refundere det beløb, der blev optjent af utilfredse spillere, samt at sikre, at spillerne får alle deres indbetalinger tilbage, som ikke burde have været foretaget i første omgang.
Ifølge spillerens indbetalingshistorik, som jeg har modtaget, beløber indbetalingerne foretaget i den periode, hvor vi mener, at kontoen allerede burde have været lukket, sig til i alt 19.148 CAD. Hvis dette er korrekt, og vi trækker de 2.000 fra, der allerede er blevet refunderet, har vi stadig 17.148 CAD tilbage. Og da jeg stadig ikke har modtaget nogen data fra jeres side, har jeg ingen grund til at sætte spørgsmålstegn ved de fremlagte beviser.
Tak til gpac2024 for yderligere oplysninger og den overførselshistorik, du har sendt mig. Jeg har eskaleret ovenstående til casinoets ledelse, inklusive beslutningstagerne, så denne sag vil vise, om fremtidigt samarbejde er muligt. Nu for at forklare, hvorfor jeg ikke kan anmode om en refusion på 25.000 CAD: Selv i tilfælde af ludomani er det umuligt for et casino at lukke kontoen øjeblikkeligt. Der er adskillige interne kontroller, der skal udføres, fra igangværende væddemål, over verifikation af, at anmodningen er ægte, til bekræftelsen af, at den er anmodet om af den legitime kontohaver. Disse ting tager et stykke tid, og derfor er vi nødt til at give casinoet en rimelig tid til at behandle denne anmodning og lukke kontoen. Hvis vi ikke gjorde det, ville det være uretfærdigt over for casinoerne og åbne alle mulige muligheder for misbrug af selvudelukkelsesprocessen til såkaldt "gratis væddemål" af nogle mindre samvittighedsfulde spillere. Derfor betragtes alt, der indbetales lige efter anmodningen (og inden for den tid, vi giver casinoet til at behandle en sådan anmodning), som ikke-refunderbart af Casino Guru. Jeg kan ikke dele præcise tidsrammer, da de er en del af interne procedurer, men forhåbentlig kunne jeg forklare situationen godt nok. Indtil videre venter vi på svaret fra casinoledelsen, og jeg giver jer besked, når jeg hører tilbage, om de har genovervejet deres holdning eller ej.
Dear Crowngreen Casino, thank you for your explanation. I would like to point out, that upon lodging a complaint through Casino Guru, the player is required to fill out the disputed amount. During that time, many players are in emotional distress - angry, desperate, afraid.. and the amount they enter is often incorrect. Sometimes it's only a rough idea of what was lost as they do not remember exact sum, or they can't check because their account is blocked. And some players even increase the real amount by adding all kinds of "emotional damage" reparations they feel like being owed. Therefore we can't take the disputed amount entered by the player as definite.
The above is the reason I was asking for the cashier history, as I usually do in cases of late account closure. This is all part of the process, to ensure fair treatment for both sides. We don't want to press the casino to refund the amount that was made up by disgruntled players, as well as to ensure players get back all their deposits that should have not been made in the first place.
According to the player's deposit history I have received, the deposits made during the time we believe the account should have been already closed, amounts to 19,148 CAD altogether. If this is correct and we subtract the 2,000 that has already been refunded, this still leaves us with 17,148 CAD. And since I have still not received any data from your end, I have no reason to question the evidence provided.
Thank you gpac2024 for additional information and the transfer history you have sent me. I have escalated the above to the casino's management, including the decision makers so this case will show if future cooperation is possible. Now to explain why I can't request a refund of 25,000 CAD: even in cases of gambling addiction, it is impossible for a casino to instantly close the account. There are numerous internal checks that needs to be done, from ongoing bets, through verification the request is genuine up to the confirmation it was requested by the legitimate account holder. These things take a while, and therefore we have to give the casino a reasonable amount of time to process this request and close the account. If we didn't, it would be unfair towards the casinos and open all kinds of avenues for misusing the self-exclusion process for so-called "free betting" by some less conscientious players. Therefore anything deposited right after the request (and within the time we allow the casino to process such request) is considered non-refundable by Casino Guru. I can't share exact time frames as those are part of internal procedures, but hopefully I was able to explain the situation well enough. For now we'll wait for the response from the casino management, and I will let you know once I hear back whether they reconsidered their stance or not.
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