Alle private data er blevet censureret, så gør dette offentligt
Jeg kan ikke bekræfte dette, da Stake har suspenderet mig fra alle mine samtaler, så jeg kan ikke se dem igennem, jeg har samlet en samling af nogle af de skærmbilleder, jeg fik.
Men jeg mener, at jeg viste tydelige tegn på ludomani, og jeg tog kontakt til GamCare og viste dem mine beskeder med Stake, og de fortalte mig også, at Stake var forkert og ikke udelukkede mig.
Og som Stake sagde i denne e-mail, behøvede jeg ikke at fortælle dem, at jeg havde en ludomani, de mindste tegn på ludomani ville være nok til at få lukket min konto.
Jeg fandt også en e-mail, hvor jeg nævnte til Stake, at min nedkøling var afsluttet, og jeg ønskede en permanent udelukkelse, men de gav mig kun en ny nedkølingsperiode, og jeg bad personalet om at udelukke mig permanent, når nedkølingen er blevet også afsluttet.
"Den vigtige faktor, ifølge vores politikker, er situationen, hvor kasinoet tydeligvis var klar over din afhængighed."
Er dette virkelig den rigtige tilgang? - Ville dette ikke bare give kasinoet mulighed for altid at sige, at de ikke var klar over det?
Og for at uddybe Stakes svar
en)
Jeg udelukkede ikke mig selv, fordi min VIP-vært tilbød mig en bonus, som jeg kun kunne gøre krav på, hvis jeg ikke udelukkede mig selv - bemærk venligst, at jeg IKKE bad om en bonus, men blev tilbudt det ud af det blå.
Og for det andet bad jeg om at få slettet min konto, og VIP-værten henviste mig til selvudelukkelsen, som ikke var det, jeg bad om.
"Regler for virksomheder, der opbevarer data fra europæiske borgere"
Nye regler, skrevet af Artikel 29 Data Protection Working Party , udkom i foråret 2016, og information om denne gruppe, herunder lovtekst, kan findes her .
På deres side står der på siden " Beskyttelse af dine data: dine rettigheder ", at brugere kan spørge om flere ting til "personer eller enheder, der indsamler dine personlige data", herunder:
Så jeg har ret til at bede om sletning af min konto, selvom Stake muligvis opbevarer mine data ved lov.
Det er også vigtigt at bemærke, at jeg ikke har anmodet om erstatning fra den 31. marts 2021, men fra den 27. maj 2022.
b & c)
Som Staked sagde "Efter 1 måneds selvudelukkelse kom spilleren tilbage til Stake.com".
Dette bekræfter, at Stake var klar over mit problem, og per definition sagde jeg klart, at jeg har en ludomani i henhold til deres tjenesteperiode. (Se venligst ovenstående svar)
Også hvis vi bruger Stakes Logic, så kan vi sige, at jeg aldrig nævnte, at jeg havde en ludomani den 23. september. Jeg nævnte, at jeg faldt ind i min afhængighed, det kunne være rygning, alkoholisme eller stoffer - Så de forbyder mig øjeblikkeligt for bare at sige afhængighed uden at henvise til gambling, må have indikeret, at de vidste, at jeg var afhængig af gambling.
Hvorfor ville Stake nu sige: "Det er vores forståelse, at Stake ikke kan være ansvarlig for spillerens" når deres
Selvudelukkelsespolitik sagde klart: " Vi er forpligtet til at dele ansvaret med regeringer og lokalsamfund og enkeltpersoner for at hjælpe kunder med at kontrollere deres spil og hjælpe spillere med problemer med at identificere deres problem og søge hjælp."
Staked har ikke besvaret ovenstående spørgsmål i mine tidligere svar, så her er de igen:
e1) : Gjorde jeg det klart, at jeg ville have min konto ekskluderet permanent?
e2) : Gjorde jeg det klart, at jeg ville have min konto slettet/lukket?
e3) : Hvorfor blev selvudelukkelsesknappen deaktiveret på webstedet i 8 dage?
e4) : Stake live chat fortalte mig, at de ikke var autoriseret til at ekskludere spillere - Så hvordan kunne Live chat ekskludere mig den 23. september?
Hvis de får lov til at udelukke ludomaner, så burde de have fortalt mig det. At fortælle mig, at de ikke er autoriserede, var tydeligvis en løgn, de fortalte mig for at undgå at identificere min afhængighed.
e5) : Stake fortalte mig, at de ved lov og regler er tilladt at lukke konti på de mindste tegn på ludomani - Hvad angiver de som det mindste tegn på ludomani?
Indsatsen har adgang til mine sessioner, indbetalinger og flere anmodninger om selvudelukkelse, for ikke at nævne, at jeg tydeligt fortalte dem, at jeg har mistet kontrollen over de penge, jeg har brugt på at spille, og at jeg ville være tilbage efter en 24 timers nedkøling, så jeg var nødt til at blive ekskluderet permanent øjeblikkeligt.
Se venligst artiklen i svaret ovenfor, der forklarer, at 95 % af de mennesker, der ønsker at udelukke sig selv, har problemer med ludomani / ludomani.
Ifølge stakes vilkår er de trænet i at identificere ludomani, så Stake må have kendt til min problematiske spilleadfærd på den ene eller den anden måde. De observerede mig indbetale og spille høje beløb inden for et par dage.
Selv min VIP-vært nævnte, at jeg har haft nogle hårde måneder, jeg fortalte ham også, at jeg tabte $5k ved at prøve at satse for en bonus på $3,2k. Endnu et tydeligt tegn på problem med hasardspil.
Alle private data er blevet censureret, så gør dette offentligt
All private data has been censored so please make this public
I can't confirm this since Stake has suspended me from all my conversations, so I can't look through them, I have collected a compilation of some of the screenshots I got.
But I believe I showed clear signs of gambling addiction and I took contact to GamCare and showed them my messages with Stake and they also told me that Stake was wrong not excluding me.
And as Stake stated in this email, I didn't have to tell them I had a gambling addiction, the slightest signs of gambling addiction would be enough to get my account closed.
I also found an email where I mentioned to Stake that my cool-down was completed and I wanted a permanently exclusion but they only gave me a new cool-down periode and I requested the staff to exclude me permanently once the cool-down has been completed as well.
"The important factor, according to our policies, is the situation when the casino was clearly aware of your addiction."
Is this really the right approach? - Wouldn't this just allow the casino to always say they wasn't aware?
And to elaborate Stake's response
a)
I didn't exclude myself because my VIP host offered me a bonus that I could only claim if I didn't excluded myself - please note that I did NOT ask for a bonus but was offered it out of the blue.
And secondly, I asked to get my account deleted and the VIP host referred me to the self-exclusion which is not what I asked for.
"Regulations for companies storing data from european citizens "
New regulations, written by the Article 29 Data Protection Working Party, came out in spring 2016 and information on this group, including regulatory text, can be found here.
On their site, the page "Protecting your data: your rights" states that users can ask several things of "persons or entities which collect your personal data" including:
So I have the right to ask for the deletion of my account, even though Stake might keep my data by law.
It's also important to notice that I did not request compensation from 31st marts 2021 but from the 27st may 2022.
b & c)
As Staked stated "After the 1 month self-exclusion, the player came back to Stake.com".
This confirms that Stake was aware of my problem, and by definition I clearly stated I have a gambling addiction according to their term of service. (Please see above responses)
Also if we use Stake's Logic, then we could say I never mentioned I had a gambling addiction the 23rd of September. I mentioned that I fell into my addiction, this could be smoking, alcoholism or drugs - So they instantly banning me for just saying addiction without referring to gambling must have indicated they knew I was addicted to gambling.
Why would Stake now say : "It is our understanding that Stake cannot be liable for the player's" when their
Self-Exclusion Policy clearly stated:"We are committed to sharing responsibility, with Governments and communities and individuals, for helping customers control their gambling, and helping problem gamblers to identify their problem and seek assistance."
Staked haven't answered any above question in my previous responses so here they are again:
e1) : Did I make it clear that I wanted my account excluded permanently?
e2) : Did I make it clear that I wanted my account deleted/closed?
e3) : Why was the self-exclusion button disabled on the website for 8 days?
e4) : Stake live chat told me they wasn't authorised to exclude players - So how could Live chat exclude me 23rd of September?
If they are permitted to exclude gambling addicts then they should have told me that. Telling me that they aren't authorised was clearly a lie they told me to avoid identifying my addiction.
e5) : Stake told me they by law and regulations are permitted to close accounts on slightest signs of gambling addiction - What do they indicate as the slightest sign of gambling addiction?
Stake has acces to my sessions, deposits, and multiple self-exclusion requests, not to mention I clearly told them I have lost control over the money spent gambling and I would be back after a 24 hour cool-down so I needed to be excluded permanently instantly.
Please see the article in the respond above that explains 95% of people that want to self-exclude have problem gambling / gambling addiction.
According to stakes terms they are trained in identifying gambling addiction so Stake must have known about my problematic gambling behavior one way or the other. They observed me deposit and gamble high amounts within a few days.
Even my VIP Host mentioned I have had some tough months, I also told he that I lost $5k trying to wager for a bonus of $3.2k. Another clear sign of problem gambling.
All private data has been censored so please make this public