Hej Tomas,
Tak for dit svar!
Desværre ved at se på dit svar, har du slet ikke undersøgt casinoets politik, da de har en politik for ansvarligt spil. https://spacewincasino.com/info/responsible_gaming
Jeg mener, at min klage er berettiget og værd at undersøge hos Casino Guru, simpelthen fordi kasinoet fejlede i forhold til sin egen politik/regler. Jeg er helt enig i, at der ikke er nogen samlet regulering vedrørende ansvarligt spil, og du skal forholde dig til tilbuddene afhængigt af casinoet. Det er dog én ting, at et casino ikke har nogen beskyttelsesværktøjer og en anden, hvis et casino har, men ikke bruger dem, når spillere har brug for det for at undgå udbetalinger.
Og ifølge dit svar (ret mig, hvis jeg forstår det forkert), hvis en spiller anmoder om en selvudelukkelse, og dette bliver overset eller ikke indstillet korrekt, kan han/hun heller ikke bruge klageproceduren på dette casino, da du ikke ville være i stand til at refunder/gendan spillernes balancer/indskud, men der er flere klager her (løst og uløst) over en overset anmodning om selvudelukkelse, hvor spillere krævede hjælp fra dit hold for at løse sagen.
Bemærk, at jeg har anmodet to gange om en indsatsgrænse, og på begge har jeg beviser for, at denne besked blev modtaget af kasinoet. Og mellem min anden wager Limit-anmodning og det tidspunkt, hvor jeg faktisk begyndte at spille igen (hvilket tog flere timer, før jeg mistede hele min saldo), gik vi 18 timer, hvilket er mere end nok tid til, at kasinoet kan indstille denne grænse eller svare og bede om mere info eller at de ikke kan imødekomme en sådan anmodning, da deres support er tilgængelig 24/7.
Anmodningen jeg sendte til kasinoet var:
Derudover anmoder jeg også hermed om en indsatsgrænse på €50 pr. dag, der træder i kraft med det samme for at forhindre skade på mig selv!
At nævne dette indikerer normalt, at spilleren har brug for hjælp, eller kasinoet skal undersøge dette bedre for at se, hvilken hjælp de kan yde.
Efter at have mistet alle mine midler og talt med Live Support, bekræftede hun modtagelsen af min anmodning, men ifølge hende har hendes kollega måske ikke bemærket det, hvilket faktisk er en skam. I betragtning af deres svar på min sag ville det ikke overraske mig, hvis det måske var med vilje..
Det, jeg forventer af Casino Guru, er faktisk at undersøge sagen, da dette casino simpelthen overtrådte sine egne vilkår og beskyttelsesværktøjer, hvilket burde føre til efterforskning (og måske en genoprettelse af balance eller sorte punkter, hvis casinoet slet ikke reagerer) måske overser min anmodning.
Det faktum, at kasinoet tilbød mig en delvis tilbagebetaling af mine indskud, indebærer, at de er opmærksomme på deres fejl, da de i deres endelige beslutning/svar ikke nævnte et ord om min klage eller sag, det eneste, de fandt på, var en svag undskyldning om sikkerhedstjek og 'negativ' feedback fra et andet casino uden støttende beviser. Support bekræftede også, at hvis jeg accepterer tilbagebetalingen, er jeg nødt til at droppe alle mine krav mod casinoet, hvilket igen betyder, at de ved, at de tager fejl og skal af med mig.
I løbet af den første uge efter at have sendt min klage var jeg stadig i stand til at spille og indbetale på deres casino uden nogen begrænsninger, hvilket beviser, at casinoet ikke ønsker at sætte nogen for at få mere overskud. Dagen før jeg fik den 'endelige' beslutning blokerede de min casinokonto fuldstændigt, hvilket jeg formoder gjorde, så jeg kan ikke samle beviser mod dem, tror jeg.
Det er derfor, jeg henvendte mig til Casino Guru, da det ville være nemmere at bruge din formidlingsløsning, som kunne løse mit problem, og hvis det mislykkes, advare andre spillere om at holde sig langt væk fra dette casino, da de er uretfærdige og useriøse.
Med alt det ovenstående undrer jeg mig over, hvad Casino Guru-teamet vil sige om denne klage, når de prøver at løse den eller ej..
Hello Tomas,
Thanks for your reply!
Unfortunately looking to your reply you did not investigate the casino’s policy at all as they do have a Responsible Gaming Policy. https://spacewincasino.com/info/responsible_gaming
I do believe that my complaint is justified and worth the investigation at Casino Guru simply as the casino failed on its own policy/rules. I fully agree that there is no unified regulation regarding responsible gaming, and you have to deal with the offers depending on the casino. However, it is one thing that a casino has no protection tools and another if a casino has but does not use them when players need it to avoid payouts..
And according to your reply(correct me if I understand it wrong) if a player request a self-exclusion and this is gets overlooked or not set properly he/she also cannot use the complaint procedure on this casino as you would not be able to refund/restore the players balances/deposits, yet there are several complaints here (solved and unsolved) about an overlooked self-exclusion request where players required help from your team to resolve the matter.
Do note that I made the request twice for a wager limit and on both I have evidence that this message was received by the casino. And between my second Wager Limit request and the time I started actually playing again (which took several hours before I lost all my balance) we passed 18 hours which is more than enough time for the casino to set this Limit or reply asking for more info or stating that they cannot honour such request as their Support is 24/7 available.
The request I made to the casino was:
Furtheron I also hereby request a wager limit of €50 per day effective immediately to prevent harm to myself!
Mentioning this normally indicates that the player needs help or the casino needs to look into this better to see what assistance they can provide.
After losing all my funds and speaking with Live Support, she confirmed the receival of my request but according to her maybe her colleague did not notice it which is actually a shame. Given their reply on my case it would not surprise me if that maybe was maybe on purpose..
What I do expect from Casino Guru actually is to look into the case as this casino simply violated its own terms and protection tools which should lead to investigation (and maybe a restore of balance or black points if the casino does not respond at all) by maybe overlooking my request.
The fact that the casino offered me a partial refund of my deposits does imply that they are aware of their mistakes as in their final decision/reply they did not mention a word about my complaint or case, all they came up with was a weak excuse about security checks and ‘negative’ feedback from another casino without any supporting evidence. Support also confirmed that if I agree on the refund, I have to drop all my claims against the casino which again imply that they know they are wrong and needs to get rid of me.
During the first week after sending my complaint I was still able to play and deposit on their casino without any restrictions which proof that the casino does not want to set any to gain more profit. The day before I got the 'Final' Decision they blocked my casino account fully which I guess did so I can not gather any evidence against them I think.
That’s why I turned to Casino Guru as it would be easier to use your mediate solution which could resolve my matter and if that fails warn other players to stay far away from this casino as they are unfair and rogue.
With all the above I wonder what the Casino Guru team will say about this complaint on trying to resolve it or not..