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Refundnow
5 måneder siden

Due to breaching the rules again, I'm banning your account.

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Jaro
5 måneder siden

Hej, nogen chance for at du kan afsløre disse kasinoer? Jeg har en stærk mistanke om, hvilke kasinoer...

hvis de har ret, og de mener, at vi begår en forbrydelse, hvorfor er de bange og selv kontakter vedligeholdelse for at fjerne denne tråd?. Denne kæde ville være en lotto gevinst for dem, her er alle os der har begået en "forbrydelse" ifølge dem, de ville sagsøge os og få erstatning... ikke?

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Refundnow
5 måneder siden

Du virker som en meget forvirret person, pas på og hav en god dag. ☀️👌

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Refundnow
5 måneder siden

👋

Anonymized603
5 måneder siden

Lad os få det på det rene.

-Det er IKKE ulovligt at kontakte betalingsgateways, betalingsoperatører, kasinoer og bede om refusion på grund af en forkert MCC-kode og hvidvaskning af transaktioner. De kan simpelthen bare erklære, at de mener, man tager fejl, og ikke betale noget tilbage.

-At kontakte de samme aktører og anmode om tilbagebetaling på grund af en opfundet årsag, fx at man ikke har modtaget pengene, kan være et forsøg på svindel.

- At true enhver aktør med vold, chikane osv. kan være ulovligt

-At indgive en kortklage til din bank og ikke være ærlig med hensyn til at modtage pengene for kasinospil er et forsøg på svindel, dvs. ulovligt

-Det er ikke ulovligt at indgive en kortklage til din bank og være ærlig om, at det gik til kasinoet. Banken kan dog vælge at fastfryse dine konti (midlertidigt) eller opsige dig som kunde, hvis de vurderer, at du er en højrisikokunde.

Tråden skal ikke lukkes. Det grundlæggende spørgsmål er ikke forkert. Det er en gråzone mht. hvor lovligt eller ej det er med "transaction laundering" og brug af forkerte MCC-koder - det er absolut ikke Mastercard og ViSAs politikker, men juridisk set er det mere en gråzone. Det er nok derfor, nogle vælger at tilbagebetale, og andre ikke gør.

Så længe man holder sig til dette, og holder sig til sandheden, kan man ikke blive dømt for nogen forbrydelse. På den anden side har jeg også advaret flere gange tidligere om, at det er et forsøg på svindel at lyve for/tilbageholde sandheden fra sin bank, hvis man laver en kortklage. Selvom du e-mailer disse firmaer og lyver og fx siger, at du ikke har modtaget casinoindbetalingen, kan det muligvis være svindel. Jeg har dog meget svært ved at se, at de ville mene, at det er værd at føre en dyr retssag mod enhver enkeltperson for så små beløb.

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Automatisk oversættelse:
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I totally agree, to be honest. There is a simpler way to avoid this. Don't play at Curacao or don't play at all, if you are not willing to take the winning or losing risk.

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I think you meant don't play at any unlicensed casino 🙂, which in general means no MGA, no Estonia or no Curacao or any other fake jurisdiction. Just because they say they have a license, doesn't mean it's a license. A license for what? Scamming people? Processing payments incorrectly?

This fraud is in any jurisdiction with fake international licenses. The fraud don't exist in, for example, the Swedish licensed casinos or the UK licensed casinos. Don't play at all if you are in a country that doesn't have a proper national license. We all know we're just giving away money to money launderers and tax avoiders by doing this. It's similar to buying drugs from criminals. It leads to violence, more crime etc etc.

I would say it's important to remember this in the long run.




5 måneder siden

Digikey, Budapest. (digikeyboard.com) refunded and emailed me with this explanation: they dont seem to understand exactly what is happening.


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Also feastingmen.com / amegagame.com refunded today.


So don't let yourselves be threatened. it is obvious that the Casinos are taking advantage of some companies here and it is they who are doing the wrong thing.

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I think it been mentioned before, a lot of the merchants, (except the obvious Estonian shell companies), are unaware of the issue. They are just getting used as much as we are getting used by dubious suspicious payment processors/Gateways/aquiring banks that is the culprit.

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Indlæg af Anonymized609 er blevet slettet
5 måneder siden

Sweden or no Sweden, easy to spoof your location or account here too.

But so many obvious accounts trying to threaten us, saying we will be sued etc etc

How would they sue us using a casino guru username, lol.

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I would advise every single person to leave the thread. All financial institutions are aware of this now and are actively saving copies of people’s posts for their own investigations.


Casino Guru need to close this thread down immediately

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lol, they will sue my casino.guru username

all financial instutitions, haha, like they would bother.

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I uploaded the documents but they were removed!!


I haven’t been paid anything to silence people. I was passing on the message I received which clearly shows that this thread is illegal.


some of you claim to not care but I promise you will if they contact you directly.

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How would they contact me directly?


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Basically admitting on here to gambling but then claiming to not receive goods is an illegal offence. They are saying that we are capitalising on both playing with the funds and then getting money back. Also by us getting other people involved it makes it more serious as it’s a fraudulent scheme.


this is what they are telling me. I perfectly understand people wanting to keep their posts on here but it’s not worth it for me to do so receiving the threat.



5 måneder siden

who is telling you? Your Russian overlords?

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Sounds to me like this thread is working. Keep fighting!

Glamors12
5 måneder siden

Quickbit har vel slet ikke betalt tilbage? Jeg har alligevel ikke læst nogen, der har fået refusion fra dem 😕

Automatisk oversættelse:
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Hej, nogen chance for at du kan afsløre disse kasinoer? Jeg har en stærk mistanke om, hvilke kasinoer...

hvis de har ret, og de mener, at vi begår en forbrydelse, hvorfor er de bange og selv kontakter vedligeholdelse for at fjerne denne tråd?. Denne kæde ville være en lotto gevinst for dem, her er alle os der har begået en "forbrydelse" ifølge dem, de ville sagsøge os og få erstatning... ikke?

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We don't want to post what casinos are involved yet, because we are waiting to find out if they want to open a discussion with us. So we give them a few more days to get in touch.

Jaro
5 måneder siden

the casinos won't sue anybody for sure, it's just kinda tactic, so you stop emailing them

on the other hand, I guess a good half of guys here try in fact dispute funds for the services they received and spent, I tried as well.

asking for a refund in this case directly from providers/casinos won't get you into legal trouble but if you raise it to the bank/other instances on a constant basis - that could be a matter lol

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carsix79
5 måneder siden

Jeg forstår, at 2 kasinoer først kontaktede casinoguru for at fjerne denne tråd? hvorefter casinoguruen ville have en samtale med dem, og de kommunikerede ikke længere.

Automatisk oversættelse:
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Been following this thread for a while as I also noticed this on my bank statement and thought I'd recover some of my funds at least as I was getting fed up with it all.. I was also contacted yesterday by my bank directly after I disputed my transactions and have been told that they have noticed ''numerous clients disputing multiple transactions which were completed via 3d secure'' all claiming the same story behind their disputes and said that the matter is being investigated by the bank and my bank account is now part of the investigation WHICH IS NUTS!!! Has anyone else been contacted about this?!?! What is going to happen now??

palma
5 måneder siden

Hvilken forklaring gav du/på hvilket grundlag anmodede du om en kortklage?



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palma
5 måneder siden

Det er umuligt at sige, om du ikke fortæller os, på hvilket grundlag du klagede. Hvad skrev du til banken, da du klagede?

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palma
5 måneder siden

You don't need to worry. An investigation is always conducted. Such an investigation is necessary. It is these investigations that lead authorities and banks to take action. An investigation does not mean that you are a suspect; it is about understanding what happened and how it happened. 


Remember that we are suffering from gambling addiction, and these gambling companies exploit us because of it. They allow us to deposit money, but when it comes to withdrawals, they delay the process, citing minor rule violations. They demand an array of documents, all to exploit the customer's addiction and wait until the money is gambled away, only to then offer the customer a bonus to deposit even more money.


These casinos claim to offer a service. However, a service is not just letting customers waste their money on a slot machine. A service from a gambling company should include safe gambling practices, secure payments, and responsibility towards the customer's well-being, including their financial situation. 


I find it wonderful that the banks are finally taking notice. I encourage everyone to highlight these issues.



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