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BettyBetty
5 måneder siden

same explanation as in previous messages I've seen being recommended in the thread! I mentioned that the transactions are illegal as it contains a merchant code that also bypasses blocks set on cards in relation to gambling transactions and I have not received any service from them.. has anyone else experienced this?? I need HELP!

palma
5 måneder siden

Jeg venter på, at min bank kontakter mig TÅLMODIGT...Jeg overvejer selv at gøre det, før de gør det. Så længe du har været ærlig, skal du ikke være bekymret. Kan du ikke få adgang til din bankkonto nu? Og har du sendt filer og at du kontakter virksomhederne

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5 måneder siden

The money that we have received from the casino, they can ask us to return it, just as we are asking for money for a service that we have not consumed, apart from the fact that they can report us for attempted fraud..

efsfasfasfsfs
5 måneder siden

Jeg håber, at ingen er så syge, at de laver en tilbageførsel fra et kasino, der stadig har udbetalt gevinsterne.

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palma
5 måneder siden

Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).


Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.

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Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).


Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.

5 måneder siden

No, but doing so in order to bypass laws prohibiting illegal online gambling is illegal.

BettyBetty
5 måneder siden

Han mener nok, at han ikke har købt varer hos dem. Og det er sandt.

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5 måneder siden

Well, saying that you havent received any service from them is not true If you have received the deposit into your casino account. They have acted as a payment processor/payment gateway to the casino. That is not illegal per se. So if the casino has received your payment, you have received their (the payment gateways) service. And by saying otherwise to your bank, you are attempting fraud (försök till bedrägeri).


Misclassification of MCC codes are, as I understand it, not illegal either. Yes it is against Mastercard and VISAs policies and terms, and can lead to suspension and fees imposed by VISA/Mastercard to the merchant. It is also in general skechy and if it would be thorougfully invested it often has connection to money laundering (which is illegal). But I doubt misclassification of MCC codes is an actual crime.

5 måneder siden

Ja, det er ulovligt at fungere som 3. part, medmindre hovedbutikkens navn er forbundet direkte før eller efter 3. part

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5 måneder siden

Så der er intet der, der kan undskylde, hvad de har gjort. Hvis det var tilfældet, ville købmandskoden til spil ikke være blevet blokeret

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Golfforesite
5 måneder siden

Yes -in the country of jurisdiction. But If the casino is not licensed in that country, it would be very hard to charge them with anything. Especially since 99,9% of all unlicensed casinos T&Cs state that it is the players responsibility to conduct to any local laws and regulations prohibiting gambling.

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no matter how you twist and turn it, it still looks like money laundering through the majority of these companies, maybe not all, but a large part.

Anonymized641
5 måneder siden

Selvom det ikke er det, man siger, når man vælger at lave en kortklage af den grund, at man ikke har "modtaget nogen varer/ydelser". Det du siger er, at du ikke har modtaget det produkt eller den service, du har købt. Hvilket du desværre har, hvis du har modtaget casinoindbetalingen.

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BettyBetty
5 måneder siden

sagde hun i banken. Hvis ikke alle muligheder er inkluderet, kan du forklare det i en pdf-fil i stedet

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5 måneder siden

Så køber du ikke en tjeneste "juridiske ydelser i Afrika", men det er et casinoindskud. Det går ikke hånd i hånd hehehe

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huddy
5 måneder siden

Thank you for that clarification.

I see that you are from UK -can you please explain what "gambling blocks" refers too, formally? In Sweden we are not able to block ourselves via our Banks against gambling transactions, why I wonder if it would be considered the same here. It either isnt illegal to play at unlicensed casinos.

Anonymized641
5 måneder siden

Kan du henvise til hvilken lov/paragraf de bryder? Det ville være fantastisk, hvis du har ret.

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5 måneder siden

In the end, at least in my case, I have been given the OK to carry out these transactions.


And what they are trying to do is a fraud because we have received that money from the casino. I am not on one side or the other but I am afraid that the casino will make me return the money that I have received from them just as I ask the merchant to return it to me.

efsfasfasfsfs
5 måneder siden

Er du bange ?

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Lucid_1337
5 måneder siden

I totally agree, and I am certain that 99% of these casinos are connected to all kind of criminal activity and money laundering. But keep in mind that financial criminality is something that all governments with numerous employed lawyers, financial experts etc. battle every day but even for them it is hard to get to these companies. So whatever you and me feel/think we cant just go to the bank and say "hey, these guys are money laundering scum bags and therefor I have the right to get my deposit backs". It doesnt work that way even of it would be fantastic if it would.

palma
5 måneder siden

Jeg blev ikke kontaktet, swedbank har.

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