Dette bliver en lang historie, men kernen i det er, at dette casino gentagne gange har forsinket betalingen af legitime gevinster i over 5 måneder, og til sidst, da de løb tør for undskyldninger, konfiskerede de simpelthen gyldige gevinster med et bevisligt falsk krav.
Jeg har indbetalt over $28.000 hos dette casino, her er en liste over alle deres forsinkelsestaktikker siden august sidste år. Bemærk venligst, at hver gang en af disse undskyldninger bruges, kommer den mindst en hel uge efter, at udbetalingsanmodningen er indgivet, og der er aldrig enhver meddelelse, er jeg nødt til at jagte uhjælpsom (se skærmbillede 1a) kundesupport, hver gang jeg spørger, hvorfor min tilbagetrækning endnu en gang blev afvist. Derudover vil de bare sige, at de ikke har modtaget e-mails, der indeholder beviset, medmindre du bliver online med chatten og insisterer på, at de bekræfter modtagelsen. Her er listen, som jeg kunne rekonstruere den:
5/8/22 "tilfældig verifikation" - to uger til at tjekke det papirarbejde, de har haft hele tiden, kan tilsyneladende forekomme op til to gange om året.
25/8/22 "bekræftelse af bitcoin-adresse" - ønsker at bekræfte, at den bitcoin-adresse, du har givet os, er korrekt...
16/10/22 "kilde til midler" - ønsker bare at få EN ANDEN kontoudtog fra dig for at sikre dig, at pengene er dine.
24/10/22 "tilfældig verifikation IGEN" - Jeg gætter på, at den fra to måneder siden ikke var udtømmende nok.
29/12/22 "bekræftelse af bitcoin-adresse IGEN" - hævder, at de har brug for dette igen, selvom min adresse ikke er ændret, og jeg har registreret, at de har modtaget den forrige for 4 måneder siden, og de har allerede foretaget betalinger til denne adresse tidligere.
7/1/23 "random verification IGEN IGEN" - de to foregående var vist ikke nok, også en ret løs fortolkning af "vi vil ikke bede om dette mere end to gange om året", da jeg nu har modtaget det tre gange på 5 måneder.
26/1/23 "bevis for adresse IGEN" - de vil have et nyt bevis for adresse, da det originale dokument nu er 6 måneder gammelt, så det er temmelig sandsynligt, at dette sker, når du udsætter betalingen i 5 måneder.
2/2/23 "vi skal bare annullere dine gevinster".
Og nu til påstandene fra kasinoet og mine beviser mod dem.
Den 2. februar 2023 loggede jeg ind på min konto for at se, hvorfor min udbetaling ikke var blevet respekteret denne gang, og jeg var chokeret over at se, at den ikke kun var blevet tilbageført som normalt, men fjernet helt.
Jeg kontaktede kundesupport (skærmbillede 2a), og de siger:
"Bemærk venligst, at krav på mere end 3 bonusser efter en indbetaling betragtes som et bonusmisbrug som angivet i vores vilkår og betingelser"
som jeg har flere problemer med:
Det er ikke i deres T&C'er (vist i skærmbillede 2a og 2b)
Dette casino har en daglig kalenderkampagne, hvor hvis du indbetaler mere end $75, får du 4 tilfældige gratis bonusser (mellem $5-$15 bonuspenge eller 10-50 gratis spins), så selv var dette i deres T&C's ville det ugyldiggøre alle spilleres gevinster, tilsyneladende endda dem, der ikke er relateret til bonussen som-
Jeg har faktisk aldrig trukket penge fra en bonus/gratis spins.
Da jeg fortæller CS, at der ikke er noget i deres vilkår vedrørende dette, ændrer han årsagen til:
"3:1 bonus til indbetalingsforhold (gratis bonusser inkluderer, men er ikke begrænset til, gratis spins, kalenderbonusser, skrabelodsbonusser, turneringspræmier, løbspræmier, mailer-bonusser, goodwill-bonusser tildelt af kontoadministratorer osv.)" hvortil jeg har følgende problemer:
Jeg har indbetalt over $28.000, der er INGEN MÅDE, hvor jeg har modtaget tre gange, at i gratis spins/bonusser, estimerer jeg et gennemsnit på ~$100 gratis spins/bonusser om ugen.
Alle mine gevinster var fra RIGTIGE PENGE indskud/cashback.
Når jeg informerer CS om dette, siger de blot, at jeg skal tjekke min kontoafstemning for at bekræfte. Problemet med dette er, at det kun går tilbage til 18/12/2022 og er umuligt at se uden de tusinder og atter tusinder af spilspin-runder - filtrene tillader dig ikke at fjerne dem, så det er næsten umuligt at gå igennem dette.
På trods af det trawlede jeg igennem det, da jeg var sikker på, at de løj igen og bekræftede følgende:
18/12/22 indsatte jeg $1040,93 (skærmbillede 3a)
19/12/22 Den ugentlige 15% cashback på $156 blev udstedt (1040*0,15=156) - i henhold til deres vilkår: dette er rene kontanter uden begrænsninger eller begrænsninger.
17:29 Da jeg stadig havde bonusmidler til rådighed fra f.eks. de daglige kampagner anmodede jeg om en udbetaling af disse $156, så det ikke ville blive blandet sammen med nogen bonuspenge.
18:16 Jeg har spillet ned og annulleret alle bonusmidler, min saldo er $0,01 rigtige penge (skærmbillede 4a)
18:40 vender jeg tilbagebetalingsanmodningen på $156 og lykkes derefter at få min saldo fra $156 til $7500 og kl . 19:23 anmoder jeg om det maksimalt tilgængelige udbetalingsbeløb på $4000 (skærmbillede 5a) - de giver dig også mulighed for at lave 2 anmodninger, så du kan sætte op til $8000 i udbetalingskøen.
Kasinoet bruger derefter forsinkelsestaktikken som beskrevet tidligere, men til sidst løber de tør for undskyldninger og fjerner alle midler ($8255) den 2/2/23 (skærmbillede 6a).
PS det vil ikke lade mig uploade alle skærmbilleder.
This will be a long story but the crux of it is that this casino has repeatedly delayed payment of legitimate winnings for over 5 months and finally when they ran out of excuses they simply confiscated valid winnings with a provably false claim.
I have deposited over $28,000 with this casino, here is a list of all their delaying tactics since August last year, please note each time one of these excuses is used it comes at least one full week after the withdrawal request is lodged and there is never any notification, I have to chase unhelpful (see screenshot 1a) customer support each time asking why my withdrawal was yet again rejected. Further to that they will just say they haven't received emails containing the proof unless you stay online with the chat and insist they confirm receipt. Here is the list as I could reconstruct it:
5/8/22 "random verification" - two weeks to check over the paperwork they've had the whole time, apparently can occur up to twice a year.
25/8/22 "bitcoin address verification" - want to confirm that the bitcoin address you gave us is correct...
16/10/22 "source of funds" - just want to get ANOTHER bank statement from you to make sure funds are yours.
24/10/22 "random verification AGAIN" - I guess the one from two months ago wasn't exhaustive enough.
29/12/22 "bitcoin address verification AGAIN" - claiming they need this again even though my address hasn't changed and I have record of them receiving the previous one 4 months ago and they have already made payments to this address previously.
7/1/23 "random verification AGAIN AGAIN" - I guess the previous two weren't enough, also a pretty loose interpretation of "we won't ask for this more than twice a year" as I've now received it three times in 5 months.
26/1/23 "proof of address AGAIN" - they want a new proof of address since the original doc is now 6 months old, so this is pretty likely to happen when you delay payment for 5 months.
2/2/23 "we're just going to void your winnings".
And now on to the claims by the casino and my evidence against them.
On the 2nd feb 2023 I logged in to my account to see why my withdrawal hadn't been honoured this time and was shocked to see that it hadn't only been reversed as per usual but removed entirely.
I contacted customer support (screenshot 2a) and they state:
"please note that claiming more then 3 bonuses after a deposit consider as a bonus abuse as stated on our terms and conditions"
to which I have several issues:
That is not in their T&C's (shown in screenshot 2a and 2b)
This casino has a daily calendar promotion where if you deposit more than $75 you get 4 random free bonuses (between $5-$15 bonus money or 10-50 free spins) so even were this in their T&C's it would invalidate every players winnings, seemingly even those unrelated to the bonus as-
I never actually withdrew money from a bonus/free spins.
When I tell CS there's nothing in their terms regarding this he changes the reason to:
"3:1 bonus to deposit ratio (free bonuses include but are not limited to Free Spins, Calendar bonuses, Scratch Card bonuses, Tournament prizes, Race prizes, Mailer bonuses, Goodwill bonuses awarded by account managers, etc.)" to which I have the following issues:
I have deposited over $28,000, there is NO WAY I have received three times that in free spins/bonuses, I estimate an average of ~$100 free spins/bonuses a week tops.
All my winnings were from REAL MONEY deposits/cashback.
When I inform CS of this they simply say to check my account reconciliation to confirm. The problem with this is that it only goes back to 18/12/2022 and is impossible to view without the thousands and thousands of game spin rounds - the filters do not allow you to remove them so going through this is next to impossible.
Despite that I trawled through it as I was sure that they were lying once again and confirmed the following:
18/12/22 I deposited $1040.93 (screenshot 3a)
19/12/22 The weekly 15% cashback of $156 was issued (1040*0.15=156) - as per their terms: this is pure cash with no limitations or restriction.
5:29PM As I still had bonus funds available from eg; the daily promotions I requested a withdrawal of this $156 so that it would not be mixed up with any bonus money.
6:16PM I have played down and voided all bonus funds, my balance is $0.01 real money (screenshot 4a)
6:40PM I reverse the $156 withdrawal request and then manage to get my balance from $156 to $7500 and at 7:23PM request the maximum available withdrawal amount of $4000 (screenshot 5a) - they also allow you to make 2 requests so you can put up to $8000 into the withdrawal queue.
The casino then uses the delaying tactics as detailed previously but eventually they run out of excuses and remove all funds ($8255) on 2/2/23 (screenshot 6a).
PS it won't let me upload all screenshots.