Hilsen alle,
Jeg beklager forsinkelsen.
Jeg ved allerede, hvad der foregår her. 'Ingen regler' er ikke så vigtige i dette tilfælde, jonnotron. Det handler om casinoets generelle bonusregler og deres anvendelse.
Kære Thomas og Brango Casino ,
Tak for din e-mail og de angivne data.
Selvom alle handlinger blev udført i overensstemmelse med casinoets vilkår, som du nævnte, er jeg bange for, at disse regler ikke er helt klare for en almindelig spiller. Selv der er modstridende dele.
For at være ærlig kan jeg huske, at jeg tidligere havde flere sager vedrørende lignende problemer, og vi havde endda et videoopkald med repræsentanter for Brango Casino og dets andre søsterkasinoer. Vi lavede en aftale om, at casinoet skulle have implementeret pop-ups, når spillere falder under 1 $/€, hvilket, hvis jeg husker rigtigt, blev gjort. Vi indgik denne aftale præcis på grund af reglen, der blev anvendt i denne sag, og dens vildledende/uklare formulering. Pop op-vinduet skal informere spillere om yderligere muligheder/handlinger for ikke at falde i en "fælde" med uendelig anvendelse af bonusregler. Selvom det var relateret til situationen, hvor en saldo er under 1 $/€, kan jeg se en lignende situation her.
Derfor har jeg et par yderligere spørgsmål for at afklare situationen.
Er der også en pop-up, der informerer spillere om mulige fremtidige handlinger, efter at indsatskravene er opfyldt?
Bonusserne afsluttes normalt ved at opfylde omsætningskravene eller en udbetalingsanmodning. Hvis brugeren opfyldte omsætningskravene for den pågældende bonus og ikke brød nogen andre regler, hvorfor skulle bonusreglerne så stadig gælde for hans saldo, som blev konverteret til hans rigtige penge (udtagelige) saldo? Forstår jeg rigtigt, at han på det tidspunkt (ved at opfylde indsatskravene) fik lov til at hæve sin disponible saldo? Hvis ja, og det er stadig som tidligere - skulle han hæve sine penge lige efter at have opfyldt omsætningskravene og indbetale dem tilbage på kontoen for at fortsætte med at spille?
Hvis ja, hvad er forskellen mellem at fortsætte med at spille og hæve og efterfølgende indsætte disse gevinster tilbage på kontoen, så han kan spille?
Hvis casinoet ønsker at anvende bonusregler og begrænsninger, efter at bonusomsætningskravene er opfyldt, bør det også være i stand til at håndhæve det af sit system/SW, som det er under et spil med en aktiv bonus, eller i det mindste skal spillerne være på en eller anden måde tydeligt informeret om disse fakta og regler (for eksempel ved en pop-up), da vi snarere taler om specifikke regler, som ikke er almindelige i branchen.
Hvordan kan en spiller finde ud af - udover lidt uklare generelle bonusregler - at hans rigtige penge (udtagelige) saldo skal hæves og indbetales tilbage for at fortsætte med at spille?
Eller var det en klæbrig bonus? Kun det kunne ændre situationen markant.
Greetings all,
I am sorry for the delay.
I already know what is going on here. 'No rules' are not so important in this case, jonnotron. It is about the casino's general bonus rules and their application.
Dear Thomas and Brango Casino,
Thank you for your email and the provided data.
Although all actions were conducted in accordance with the casino's terms, as you mentioned, I am afraid those rules are not completely clear to a regular player. Even there are contradictory parts.
To be honest, I remember I had several cases in the past regarding similar issues, and we even had a video call with representatives of Brango Casino and its other sister casinos. We made a deal that the casino should have implemented pop-ups once players fall under 1 $/€, which, if I remember correctly, was done. We made this deal exactly because of the rule applied in this case and its misleading/unclear wording. The pop-up should inform players about further options/actions to not fall into a "trap" of never-ending bonus rules application. Although it was related to the situation when a balance is under 1 $/€, I can see a similar situation here.
Therefore, I have a few additional questions to clarify the situation.
Is there also a pop-up informing players about possible future actions after wagering requirements are met?
The bonuses are usually ended by meeting the wagering requirements or a withdrawal request. If the user met the wagering requirements of the bonus in question and did not breach any other rules, why should the bonus rules still apply to his balance, which was converted to his real money (withdrawable) balance? Do I understand correctly that at that point (meeting the wagering requirements), he was allowed to withdraw his available balance? If yes and it is still like in the past - was he supposed to withdraw his funds right after meeting the wagering requirements and deposit them back to the account to continue playing?
If so, what is the difference between continuing playing and withdrawing and subsequently depositing these winnings back into the account so he can play?
If the casino wants to apply bonus rules and restrictions after the bonus wagering requirements are met, it should be also able to enforce it by its system/SW as it is during a play with an active bonus, or, at least the players should be somehow clearly informed about these facts and rules (for example, by a pop-up) since we are talking rather about specific rules that are not common in the industry.
How can a player find out - besides a bit unclear general bonus rule(s) - that his real money (withdrawable) balance needs to be withdrawn and deposited back to continue playing?
Or, was it a sticky bonus? Only that could significantly change the situation.
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