Hej Casino Guru Team,
Desværre har jeg et problem med Forza.bet, som ikke er blevet løst. Det er derfor, jeg kontakter dig. Hovedproblemet i min klage er, at dette casino tilbyder en indbetalingsgrænse som en del af deres politik for ansvarligt spil, men undlader at håndhæve den, hvilket betyder, at du kan overskride denne valgte grænse uden problemer. Her er en oversigt over min sag:
- 2. december indsatte jeg €450 euro og valgte en indbetalingsgrænse på € 600 om måneden.
- Den 13. december har jeg en aktiv indbetalingsgrænse på €600 pr. måned og var i stand til at indbetale yderligere €450, som overskrider denne valgte grænse. Samme dag forsøgte jeg også at annullere indbetalingsgrænsen og ændrede den derefter til €1000 pr. måned. Men når du gør dette, viste en popup, at grænser vil blive aktiveret om 24 timer. Det betyder, at min indbetalingsgrænse på denne dag stadig var €600 om måneden, og mit indskud på €450 burde være blevet afvist.
Desværre, da jeg var i stand til at indbetale den 13. december og overskrede indbetalingsgrænsen, startede jeg en chat med Live support.
Under denne chat med Live Support havde jeg to klager, den første var, at jeg faktisk var i stand til at overskride min indbetalingsgrænse ved at kunne indbetale €450, noget der burde have været umuligt. Og for det andet skulle jeg ikke være med og spille her, da jeg er på et hollandsk gamstop (vi kalder det CRUKS, men det fungerer på samme måde). Det betyder, at jeg aldrig burde have været i stand til at spille, mens jeg fandt dette casino gennem en hollandsk annonce rettet mod Holland. I denne chat har jeg flere gange forklaret, at jeg ønsker en tilbagebetaling af mit indskud for overskridelse af indbetalingsgrænsen, men også for at lukke min konto i betragtning af omstændighederne ved at være på et gamstop. I slutningen af chatten informerede agenten mig om at gøre det selv, men jeg havde allerede prøvet det tidligere på måneden uden mulighed for at kunne forlænge det. Kasinoet reagerede ikke på dette og smed mig efter et par minutter ud af chatten.
Kasinoet kunne ikke overholde deres egen indbetalingsgrænse og lukkede ikke min konto efter at have haft en klar samtale om, at spilleren har brug for/ønsker sin konto lukket.
- Den 16. december om morgenen var min indbetalingsgrænse stadig €450 om måneden, og jeg var i stand til at indbetale €3100,- hele dagen. Efter min sidste indbetaling blev den nye grænse synlig på €1000 om måneden. Det betyder, at deres indbetalingsgrænse endnu en gang mislykkedes, da jeg var i stand til at indbetale et samlet beløb på €4000 til dette casino, mens min indbetalingsgrænse nu var sat til €1000 om måneden.
Efter at have kontaktet kasinoet med min klage, lukkede de endelig min konto permanent, men nægtede at udstede en refusion for deres fejltagelser, da de hævdede, at der ikke var nogen funktionsfejl på deres indbetalingsgrænse. Om min klage over den manglende politik for ansvarligt spil (der henviser til min chat med Live Support den 13. december) og ikke at lukke min konto, har jeg ikke modtaget noget svar. Det eneste kasinoet siger er, at vi ikke gjorde noget forkert og kan ikke holdes ansvarlige for dette, hvilket er dårlig opførsel fra et kasino.
Det er derfor, jeg håber at få hjælp fra Casino Guru til at få en fuld refusion på €3550, for hvis casinoet respekterede sine egne vilkår, ville jeg ikke have været i stand til at indbetale €450 den 13. december, og hvis de havde en politik for ansvarligt spil, ville de har lukket min casinokonto lige efter at have informeret dem om, at jeg er på et hollandsk gamstop og vil have min casinokonto lukket. I stedet var kasinoet ligeglad, gav mig lov til at fortsætte med at spille og overskred endnu en gang min indbetalingsgrænse den 16. december, som jeg kun kan kalde et slyngel kasino (hvoraf mange er på dette marked).
En interessant del er, at jeg kunne se, at jeg overskred min indbetalingsgrænse, og efter at casinoet lukkede min konto, fjernede de alle indbetalinger, jeg lavede, fra transaktionsoversigten, som om jeg aldrig har indbetalt til dette casino. Alligevel hævder kasinoet stadig, at deres indbetalingsgrænsesystem ikke havde nogen fejl.
Hello Casino Guru Team,
Unfortunately, I have an issue with Forza.bet which has not been resolved. Thats why I am reaching out to you. The main issue of my complaint is that this casino offers a Deposit Limit as part of their Responsible Gaming Policy but fail to enforce it meaning you can exceed this selected limit without any trouble. Here is an overview of my case:
- December 2nd I deposited €450 euros and selected a deposit limit of €600 monthly.
- December 13th I sill have an active deposit limit of €600 per month and was able to deposit another €450 which exceed this selected limit. This same day I also tried to cancel the deposit limit and after that changed it to €1000 per month. However, when doing this a popup showed stating limits will be activated in 24 hours. This means that on this day my deposit limit was still €600 a month and my deposit of €450 should have been rejected.
Unfortunately, as I was able to deposit on December 13th and exceed the deposit limit I started a chat with Live support.
During this chat with Live Support I had two complaints, the first one was that I actually was able to exceed my deposit limit by being able to deposit €450 something that should have been impossible. And second I was not supposed to be able to join and gamble here as I am on a Dutch gamstop (we call it CRUKS but it works the same). This means that I should have never been able to gamble while I found this casino through a Dutch advertisement targeting the Netherlands. In this chat I multiple times explained that I want a refund of my deposit for exceeding the deposit limit but also to close my account given the circumstances of being on a gamstop. At the end of the chat the agent did inform me to do it myself but I had already tried it earlier this month without the option to be able to extend it. The casino did not respond to this and after a few minutes kicked me out of the chat.
The casino failed to comply with their own deposit limit and did not close my account after having a clear conversation that the player needs/wants his account to be closed.
- On December 16th in the morning my deposit limit was still €450 a month and I was able to deposit over the whole day €3100,-. After making my last deposit the new limit became visible of €1000 a month. This means that their deposit limit failed once again as I was able to deposit a total amount of €4000 to this casino while having my deposit limit was now set on €1000 a month.
After reaching out to the casino with my complaint they finally did close my account permanently but refused to issue a refund for their mistakes made claiming that there were no malfunctions on their deposit limit. About my complaint for the lacking responsible gaming policy (referring to my chat with Live Support on December 13) and not closing my account I have not received any response. All the casino says is we did not do anything wrong and cannot be held liable for this which is poor behavior from a casino.
Thats why I hope to get help from Casino Guru to obtain a full refund of €3550 because if the casino did respects its own terms I would have been unable to deposit €450 on December 13 and if they did have a responsible gaming policy they would have closed my casino account right after informing them that I am on a Dutch gamstop and want my casino account to be closed. Instead the casino did not care, allowed me to keep playing and exceed once again my deposit limit on December 16 which I can only call a rogue casino (of which a lot are in this market).
An interesting part is that I was able to see that I exceeded my deposit limit and after the casino closed my account they removed all deposits I made from the transaction overview as if I never deposited to this casino. Yet, the casino still claims that their Deposit limit system had no errors.
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