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The player from the United Kingdom had deposited 600 into their account and had increased it to 1900. However, they were unable to withdraw the winnings because the account was in a 'pending' verification status. Suddenly, the account had been closed and the player was offered a 'take it or leave it' deal of 200. The player had had a previous account with the casino which had been closed due to personal reasons. The player claimed they had not violated any terms and conditions and should have had access to their winnings. We had attempted to contact the casino for clarification but received no response. Consequently, we had to close the complaint as 'unresolved', which might have negatively affected the casino's rating. We had advised the player to file an official complaint with the casino's licensing authority.
Spilleren fra Det Forenede Kongerige havde sat 600 ind på deres konto og havde øget det til 1900. De var dog ikke i stand til at hæve gevinsterne, fordi kontoen var i en 'afventende' verifikationsstatus. Pludselig var kontoen blevet lukket, og spilleren blev tilbudt en 'take it or leave it'-aftale på 200. Spilleren havde tidligere haft en konto hos kasinoet, som var blevet lukket på grund af personlige årsager. Spilleren hævdede, at de ikke havde overtrådt nogen vilkår og betingelser og burde have haft adgang til deres gevinster. Vi havde forsøgt at kontakte kasinoet for at få afklaring, men modtog intet svar. Derfor var vi nødt til at lukke klagen som 'uløst', hvilket kunne have påvirket kasinoets vurdering negativt. Vi havde rådet spilleren til at indgive en officiel klage til kasinoets licensmyndighed.
Oprettede en konto i fredags og indbetalte 600 i et par separate betalinger (jeg har en tendens til at spille på denne måde - starter for småt og det går i spiral) Se venligst skærmbillede:
Som du også vil kunne se øverst til højre på dette skærmbillede, klarede jeg mig for en gangs skyld ret godt for mig selv. Da jeg loggede af for at gå i seng, kunne jeg ikke tro, at jeg endelig fik lidt held og har 1900, se andet skærmbillede nedenfor:
Jeg begyndte derefter at blive bekymret, da jeg ikke kunne hæve disse penge. Min konto var endnu ikke bekræftet og 'afventede' alle beviser, så jeg ventede på, at dette blev accepteret. Så fra ingenting i morges er min konto blevet lukket. Jeg kontaktede support, men de var ikke særlig hjælpsomme og så ud til at ville have mig væk fra chatten. Jeg blev tilbudt et "take it or leave it" tilbud på 200 pund. Jeg forstår det ikke, helt sikkert skal jeg enten få refunderet alle de penge, jeg har indbetalt, eller jeg skal have mine gevinster? Det er åbenlyst, hvad jeg foretrækker, jeg forstår bare ikke, hvordan de kan lukke min konto og tilbyde mig 200?
De gjorde ingen indsats for at løse eller forsøge at sikre, at jeg var tilfreds eller noget, de lukkede bare chatten og svarede ikke på min e-mail. Hjælp venligst 🙁
Made an account on Friday and deposited 600 in a few separate payments (I tend to gamble this way - starting of small and it spiralling)Please see screenshot:
As you will be also able to see in the top right of this screenshot, I was doing quite well for myself for once. By the time I logged off to go to bed I couldn't believe i was finally getting a bit of luck, and has 1900, see second screenshot below:
I then started to get worried as I couldn't withdraw this money. My account wasn't yet verified and was 'pending' all the evidence so I was waiting for this to be accepted. Then out of nowhere this morning my account has been closed. I contacted support but they weren't very helpful and seemed to jist want to get me off the chat. I was offered a 200 pound 'take it or leave it' offer. I don't understand, surely I should be either refunded all the money I deposited or I should be given my winnings? Its obvious which I'd prefer, I just don't understand how they can close my account and offer me 200?
They made no effort to resolve or try to make sure I was satisfied or anything, just closed the chat and not responded to my email. Please help 🙁
Jeg håber, vi vil være i stand til at hjælpe dig med at løse dette problem så hurtigt som muligt. På forhånd tak for dit svar.
Med venlig hilsen,
Petronela
Dear notidealreally,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Have you ever requested your account to be closed or suggested a gambling problem when communicating with the Goldenbet Casino?
Could you please advise if you have self-excluded yourself from any other casino in the past?
Jeg havde en konto hos goldenbet for et par måneder siden, som jeg bad om at blive lukket ned, da jeg blev spurgt, hvorfor jeg sagde personlige årsager - jeg fandt ud af, at jeg tabte mere end at vinde, så jeg ville bare fjerne mig selv fra kontoen. For at besvare dit andet spørgsmål er jeg på gamstop, og det er derfor, jeg bruger goldenbet, da det markedsføres som et kasino, du kan bruge, der ikke er på gamstop. Jeg forsøgte at logge ind med mine gamle kontooplysninger, men da dette ikke virkede, oprettede jeg en ny konto, forudsat at den gamle konto slettet for måneder siden ikke ville have nogen indflydelse. Bemærk, at når jeg skulle tilmelde mig, skulle jeg give detaljer såsom mit fulde navn, telefonnummer, adresse, bankoplysninger osv. og kunne indbetale over 600 pund uden problemer.
Jeg brugte ikke nogen af de nye bonusser eller noget lignende til mine indsatser, de interesserede mig ikke. Alle mine gevinster kom fra live casino, jeg var heldig med nogle sidebets.
Efter at jeg sendte denne første anmodning om hjælp, kom jeg igen i kontakt med goldenbet via deres live chat. Jeg fik at vide en nu anden grund til, at de tog pengene fra mig, jeg har åbenbart overtrådt vilkår og betingelser, men de nægter at fortælle mig hvilke, når jeg spørger. Det ene minut er det på grund af politikken for ansvarligt spil, næste øjeblik overtræder jeg servicevilkårene tilsyneladende?....
Mit argument her er, at jeg ikke har gjort noget forkert og burde have adgang til de penge, som jeg vandt retfærdigt på live casinoet. Hvis deres argument er, at jeg ikke skulle have haft lov til at lave en konto og spille, så burde jeg i det mindste få refunderet de 600,- jeg fik lov til at indbetale. Det ser ikke ud til at give nogen mening for mig, at jeg var i stand til at sætte 600 ind på en konto, jeg aldrig var i stand til at bruge og spille og så ikke have ret til tilbage.
Jeg håber, at dette giver mening, og at du kan forstå mine synspunkter og frustrationer i denne sag. Jeg har sendt en e-mail til goldenbet og bedt om detaljer om, hvad jeg har gjort forkert, men har ikke modtaget noget svar.
Tak igen for din hjælp i denne sag.
Hi Petronela,
Thank you for your help!
I had an account with goldenbet a few months ago which I asked to be closed down, when asked why I said personal reasons - I found I was losing more than winning so just wanted to remove myself from the account. To answer your second question I am on gamstop which is why I use goldenbet as it is marketed as a casino you can use that isn't on gamstop. I tried to log in using my old account details, but when this wouldn't work I made a new account, assuming the old account deleted months ago wouldn't have an impact. Note that when I had to sign up I had to give details such as my full name, phone number, address, bank details etc. and was able to deposit over 600 pounds without an issue.
I didn't use any of the new bonuses or anything like that for my bets, they didn't interest me. All my winnings came from live casino, I got lucky with some sidebets.
After I sent this initial request for help I once again got in touch with goldenbet via their live chat. I was told a now different reason for them taking the money from me, apparently I have violated terms and conditions but they refuse to tell me which ones when I ask. One minute it is because of responsible gambling policy, next I am violating terms of service apparently?....
My argument here is that I have done nothing wrong and should have access to the money which I won fair and square on the live casino. If their argument is that I shouldn't have been allowed to make an account and gamble, then at the very least I should be refunded the 600 I was allowed to deposit. It doesn't seem to make any sense to me that I was able to put 600 into an account I was never able to actually use and gamble and then not be entitled to it back.
I hope this makes sense and you can understand my points on view and frustrations on this matter. I have emailed goldenbet asking for details about what I have done wrong but have received no answer.
Jeg ville bare bemærke igen for at gøre det klart - enhver gammel konto, jeg havde hos goldenbet, vil være blevet lukket i flere måneder, og jeg har aldrig brugt nogen af kampagnerne. Jeg har aldrig på et tidspunkt haft to aktive konti, goldenbets vilkår og betingelser siger, at man ikke kan 'Oprette mere end én konto for at få fordel af kasinokampagner', hvilket jeg ikke har gjort.
I just wanted to note again to make it clear - any old account I had with goldenbet will have been closed down for months and i have never used any of the promotions. I never at one time had two active accounts, the goldenbet terms and conditions state that one cannot 'Create more than one account in order to get advantage from casino promotions' which i havent done.
Jeg er bange for, at jeg ikke har indledende kommunikation, da det foregår gennem deres online chattjeneste. Men det var en anmodning om en permanent lukning på grund af personlige årsager, og jeg nævnte overfor agenten, at jeg har problemer med at spille.
Jeg ved godt, at kontoen oprindeligt blev bekræftet den 5. maj og derefter lukket et par dage senere, efter at jeg havde mistet et betydeligt beløb. Som jeg nævnte, forsøgte jeg at logge ind med disse detaljer, før jeg lavede den nye konto - det ville ikke lukke mig ind på kontoen.
Da jeg anmodede om at den gamle konto blev slettet i maj og ikke længere kunne få adgang til den, havde jeg ikke længere en konto hos goldenbet, og ved at oprette kontoen i december oprettede jeg ikke en dubletkonto, og jeg brugte ikke denne konto til evt. bonusser eller kampagner – jeg vandt simpelthen pengene gennem blackjack. Derudover brugte jeg, da jeg oprettede min konto i december, de samme oplysninger til at samle og frit indbetale over 600: fornavn, efternavn, fødselsdag, adresse, mobilnummer og bankoplysninger.
I'm afraid i don't have initial communication as it Is done through their online chat service. But it was a request for a permanent closure due to personal reasons and I mentioned to the agent that I have problems gambling.
I do know that the account was initially verified on the 5th of May and then closed down a few days later after I'd lost a substantial amount of money. As I mentioned, I tried to log in with these details before I made the new account- it would not let me into the account.
As I requested the old account be deleted in May and could no longer access it, I no longer had an account with goldenbet and by creating the account in December I was not creating a duplicate account, and I didn't use this account for any bonuses or promotions - I simply won the money through blackjack. Additionally, when making my account in December I used the same details to same up and freely deposit over 600: first name, last name, birthday, address, mobile number and bank details.
Mange tak for at give alle de nødvendige oplysninger. Jeg vil nu overføre din klage til min kollega Jozef ( jozef.k@casino.guru ), som vil være til din hjælp. Jeg ønsker dig held og lykke og håber at se dit problem blive løst til din tilfredshed i den nærmeste fremtid.
Thank you very much, notidealreally, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Jozef (jozef.k@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Vi har anmodet casinoet om at svare på klagen og forlænget tidsfristen med 7 dage. Hvis casinoet ikke svarer inden da, er vi nødt til at lukke klagesagen som "uløst". Uløste klagesager påvirker casinoets rating i negativ retning.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Da vi ikke har modtaget noget svar fra casinoet vedrørende problemet, er vi tvunget til at lukke klagen som 'uløst'. Kasinoet kan genåbne denne klage når som helst.
Kære notideal virkelig,
Jeg beklager meget, men da casino-teamet ikke har reageret, kan vi ikke fortsætte efterforskningen. En alternativ mulighed er at indgive en officiel klage til kasinoets licensmyndighed . Jeg kan hjælpe dig med denne proces, og du kan kontakte mig på nedenstående e-mailadresse. Bemærk venligst, at denne klage vil have en indvirkning på deres sikkerhedsindeks på vores hjemmeside. Du er velkommen til at kontakte mig, hvis du har spørgsmål eller har brug for yderligere hjælp.
Hvis du har spørgsmål eller har brug for yderligere hjælp, så lad mig det vide.
Since we haven’t received any response from the casino regarding the issue, we are forced to close the complaint as ‘unresolved’. The casino can reopen this complaint anytime.
Dear notidealreally,
I am very sorry, but since the casino team has not been responsive, we are unable to continue with the investigation. An alternative option is to file an official complaint with the licensing authority of the casino. I may assist you with this process, and you can reach me at the email address provided below. Please note that this complaint will have an impact on their safety index on our website. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or require further assistance.
If you have any questions or need further assistance, please let me know.