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Anonymized669
1 måned siden

Actually, I have little to add.

In my opinion, we have explained all we could. We've been very open to you. The casino has changed the system, probably thanks to your persistence. You got the refunds even from the 3rd account.

Thus, from our perspective, the complaint is closed. I'm sorry you disagree; there is no reason to keep the complaint open - its process has reached the final stage.

Moral principles, or other truths, as you prefer to say, are available here on the forum, since this is the place for debates. Anyone is welcome to read your complaint, or your perfectly visible forum posts. Nothing has been hidden.

End from my side, I guess.




1 måned siden

Jeg er fuldstændig enig i dit perspektiv, men med al respekt fra dette øjeblik vil jeg tage andre veje, når alt er fuldstændig skitseret fra start til slut.

Jeg vil bare takke dig for, at dette casinos ulovligheder er kommet frem i lyset takket være dig, den eneste plet, som du aldrig har tilladt mig at forklare, er al den ulovlighed, som dette casino har begået med sine kunder indtil nu ved at afvise mine anmeldelser og ændrer ikke sikkerhedsindekset. som jeg hverken forstår eller nogensinde vil forstå, selv specialister og fagfolk på dette område, som hjælper mig, forstår ikke.

fra nu af??????

et kasinomysterium

For mit vedkommende gætter jeg heller ikke på mere.

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Anonymized669
1 måned siden

There is actually something worth mentioning, and it could also have been a part of your dissatisfaction.

Allow me to mention just one thing: posting comments on the forum about anything you believe any casino has done wrong is preferable to doing so specifically for a user review. The "crime" or unfair behavior must be proven in order for the user review to be made public, particularly if there is a complaint attached.

In spite of this, the review needs to include a sufficient quantity of information; otherwise, the community will not really benefit from it.

I checked your reviews, would you say this text is informative?

"I have only had problems with this casino and it ruined my life."


"This casino was about to end my life and almost drove me to suicide, with that, it is all said above, recognizing its mistake and its guilt, refusing to pay for its true consequences safety index 0 casino guru knows perfectly well my experience with velobet.com and It has all the evidence that is why I hope my review is published because it is my real experience, thank you."


Through the explanation provided, we attempted to advise you on how to proceed with the review.

"Hello, thank you for your review. I can see you rated the casino pretty low. Could you please share more details about the issue at the casino so it will be helpful for other players as well?"

I truly don't want to oppose you - if only you tried to submit a decent user review with a true value, preferably from a single account - not more than one. It has a fair chance of being approved then.

Thank you for your time and dedication. You have done a great deal of good through the complaint, and I wish you only the best.

1 måned siden

Beklager, men for at være ærlig, offentliggør alle dem, jeg har sendt, som du har afvist og i anmeldelser, fordi du er desperat, da du ikke accepterede nogen af dem, og jeg vidste, at du ikke ville acceptere dem, og mange med information om mine problemer med udbetalingerne. indskud og frem for alt ansvarligt spil, jeg synes, der er bevis nok, som I selv har vist, at I ved det udmærket, og at I er perfekt informeret, ellers er der ingen interesse i at offentliggøre dem, hvor spillerne skal informeres i anmeldelser.

Du ved, at de har brudt loven og udnyttet sårbare spillere, og det samme sikkerhedsindeks fortsætter, og du har været fuldstændig klar over alt.

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Anonymized669
1 måned siden

Saying anything more would only serve to continue this circle. Everything has been explained to you very openly.

I regret to see that you are unable to move past your own viewpoint.

Thank you for your contribution.



1 måned siden

Det tilgiver ikke, jeg kan ikke komme over det NEJ, du har ikke fået mig til at komme over mit synspunkt og den der led situationen var mig og det var tragisk.

men godt, min mening er, at du er mere på siden af casinoet end af de sårbare spillere. Min sag, min erfaring og min helt personlige mening har ført mig til mit synspunkt, ellers var dette ikke blevet lukket sådan her, INGENTING blev åbenlyst forklaret. og for dig er det en cirkel, for mig er det en lukning af min klage uden svar og uden at betale for de ulovligheder, der er begået, for bag dette er der mange overraskende ting.

Men jeg gentager, alt er min personlige og respektable mening, både min og andres er lige respektabel, selvom min ikke er særlig respekteret.

Jeg vil bare takke dig for alt, hvad du har undersøgt, og for dine resultater opnået selv ved at tage meget få foranstaltninger.

Nu vil jeg fortsætte på en anden vej, som jeg håber, og jeg tror på, at hvis jeg har mere støtte til at fortsætte med at kæmpe for lovlighed, selvom det ikke bliver til noget, hvem ved, så vil jeg forsøge at sikre, at alt er kendt, alt.

Tak skal du have.


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Anonymized669
1 måned siden

I'll try to mention aspects the whole team was considering when we were discussing your case, they might be of interest, and I'll leave that to you.

Mainly, we are not lawyers here, we do not represent or substitute laws. I understand you aim for compensation, as you said "the illegalities committed" - this is something we have no authority to get involved in. Yet I understand that, from your perspective, it's something you've attached to achieving. One way or another, I hope you will be satisfied in the end.

The next part is quite complex, but still, understanding the background is important:

Currently, almost all operators operate under a license that defines the rules and scope of self-exclusion. Moreover, virtually all operators offer some sort of self-exclusion to their players, whose scope is highly dependent on regulatory requirements and decisions of individual operators.

There are currently two basic levels of self-exclusion:

Single-operator level: Typically, when self-excluding in an online casino, the self-exclusion does not extend to other operators. This creates a problem: self-excluded players can freely access and play at other casino websites, bringing the overall effectiveness of such self-exclusion schemes into question.

Nationwide/license-wide level: Some countries and online gambling regulators, such as the UK, Sweden, or the Netherlands, operate wider self-exclusion schemes, which require their licensees (operators) to be part of nationwide (license-wide) self-exclusion schemes. These allow players to self-exclude from all casinos licensed in a specific country or by a specific regulator at once, creating a better level of protection.

As of this moment, a player struggling with problem gambling symptoms cannot self-exclude on a global scale. This means that although the player self-excludes on one of the above-mentioned levels, there are still many ways in which players can bypass these self-imposed measures.

It should be noted, in a more thorough version of the previous overview, that every platform, casino operator, and brand has a unique approach to the self exclusion tools. There is not a definitive guide or rule outlining how everyone should go about doing that. As a result, we are unable to establish a baseline by which we could assess the caliber of the options that are provided. While some casinos only keep track of emails as personal information, others offer a "short registration form."

If we had punished this casino for what has been done but is no longer possible, we would also have to start punishing many others, even though we would not have a decent methodology for doing so. I can promise you that you have reopened this conversation, but this is not the direction we are ready to take today.

Now, in order to fill this void, we offer the forum in addition to user reviews or complaints.

I appreciate your well-meaning intentions.

1 måned siden

Se Radka, den første selvudelukkelse på grund af spilleafhængighed var hos den samme operatør velobet.com, som ignorerede det og tillod den SAMME OPERATØR at fortsætte med at spille med katastrofale konsekvenser, som en dommer bliver nødt til at måle

og de universelle regler for et kasino er at beskytte sårbare spillere, mindreårige og hvidvaskning af penge, hvert kasino kan have sine regler, men over er loven

du har ikke straffet ham, fordi du ikke har ønsket dine grunde, du vil have genoptaget sagen med bevis for dens ulovlighed, det er derfor, du genåbnede den og undersøgte og kom til den konklusion, at de var skyldige

Du gør spillere en bjørnetjeneste generelt, fordi bortset fra en lav sikkerhedssats, har min erfaring vist, at der var problemer med ind- og udbetalinger.

Jeg vil bare have dem til at betale for deres beviste ulovlige handlinger og hjælpe spillere, der ikke går igennem det samme.

Jeg forklarede mig åbent

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1 måned siden

Og jeg gentager min tak til casinoguru for at have demonstreret ulovlighederne begået af velobet.com, nu ved jeg eller er ikke interesseret længere, hvis de fortsætter det samme, har jeg gjort alt for at sikre, at denne ulovlighed stoppes og alle spillere er informeret med alle de hindringer, som jeg har fundet, gennemgår for det meste publikationer, fordi meget af skaden allerede er sket, og det er gjort.

Mange tak.

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Anonymized669
1 måned siden

Thank you as well; take care, and best wishes on your honorable campaign!

You are welcome to start your own thread here in the forum to keep others updated on your progress. I wanted to let you know in case you were interested in doing so.

1 måned siden

Tak men jeg tror ikke det bliver nødvendigt. Jeg er sikker på, at du vil finde ud af sagens udvikling samtidig med, at jeg gør det.

Og det vil være op til dig at give information til spillerfællesskabet klart ?????.

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Anonymized669
1 måned siden

Well, the "case" has been closed. I can hardly inform others on your behalf. I do not even know what you plan to do next.

1 måned siden

Jeg forventede intet mindre end at du ville nægte mig genåbningen, jeg havde allerede assimileret det.

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1 måned siden

Hallo

Velobet is one the best bookie able in many countries. Fast deposits and whidrawals, very professional support able 24h and answering very fast. Many sports able to play, even table tennis. I hardly recommend this bookie and casino. I dont see how can I give my Mark but its max so 10/10 or 5/5 stars

1 måned siden

Ja, haha, hvor sjovt. Der er lidt behov for at være så skamløs. Der er ikke behov for kommentarerne, de er betalt for.

Det er kendt, at der har været store problemer med udbetalinger, indbetalinger og frem for alt ansvarligt spil. Alt andet er løgne og store til støtte for dette casino.

Det er bedre for en spiller at kende sandheden, selvom han senere forsøgte at begå selvmord, er det hans problem.

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1 måned siden

Hallo

Velobet is one the best bookie able in many countries. Fast deposits and whidrawals, very professional support able 24h and answering very fast. Many sports able to play, even table tennis. I hardly recommend this bookie and casino. I dont see how can I give my Mark but its max so 10/10 or 5/5 stars

1 måned siden

Thank you for your post. It sounds like an advertisement to me, to tell you the truth, though.🤷‍♀️

Have you some experience you can write about, perhaps? How long did it take to withdraw your winnings? Did you play some casino games as well? Try to describe it so everyone can read about it.

Here's also the link where you can submit your user review if you wish.

1 måned siden

Ja, haha, hvor sjovt. Der er lidt behov for at være så skamløs. Der er ikke behov for kommentarerne, de er betalt for.

Det er kendt, at der har været store problemer med udbetalinger, indbetalinger og frem for alt ansvarligt spil. Alt andet er løgne og store til støtte for dette casino.

Det er bedre for en spiller at kende sandheden, selvom han senere forsøgte at begå selvmord, er det hans problem.

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1 måned siden

Every player has the right to express his or her opinion and write about his or her experience at the casino. We always try to keep the reviews unbiased and always try to find out if the player is not writing truthful experiences.

1 måned siden

Tldr; Velobet and all their sub brands are a scam, pay small balances, don't pay big.


Bit of an update. After Velobet (and other casinos owned by same brand paid me out at first) they have locked two accounts with around 500 and around 1k in each. This was September 2023, a year ago. They claimed it was due to an "investigation" but in reality after I asked them what I done wrong they said that the traders didn't like me "betting on obscure games". So effectively even though they have a large offering, they will not pay if you bet on majority of it.


After I contacted them 6 months on, then a year on I get the same reply from Goldenbet and Freshbet. After just going on chat they said investigation is going on, no time frame, np update.


To anyone reading this, most crypto casinos are scams. They don't pay on big wins, will be happy to take 1k and pay 1k but if you suddenly get lucky you will get a "bet review" and your money will either disappear from balance or just not get paid and the review will be indefinite.


Anyone here welcome to contact me if you want to know more. My email is my username on here, followed by gmail and com.

1 måned siden

Det er ikke interessant her, sikkerhedsindekset vil helt sikkert stige.

Og ja, enhver spiller har ret til at udtrykke sin mening og godkende anmeldelserne.

Men tillad venligst offentliggørelsen af betalte og ubetalte, for som du meget godt sagde, har alle ret, og de gode og de dårlige bør offentliggøres.

Tak jwillow84

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4 uger siden

Det forekommer mig at være den mest skamfulde ting i spilleverdenen, at velobet.com fortsætter med at have et højt sikkerhedsindeks i Casino Guru, udmærket ved alt, hvad det har gjort forkert, endda genkender med fakta og ord, hvad de har gjort, især på randen af en retssag, der ikke er lige

De tænker så langt det rækker

Nok af undskyldninger, de største tabere vil være de spillere, der søger råd om et anstændigt og lovligt casino, som dette ikke har noget af, og de kender skaden.

Jeg er et hav af tvivl og lidt efter lidt går de til mig

at sætte stykkerne sammen

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