Wagerinox Casino – generel debat (side 7)

Ja, måske kan man ikke gøre noget, men kan spillerne ikke gøre noget? Er der ingen måde for spillere at gribe ind over for kasinoet? Der er ingen autoritet på Curacao, hvor du kan tage hen. Har du ikke en adresse eller andet tip til spillerne?

I've done so much as emailed the Curacao licensing company with their business license (see below) ...I also sent a message to the man who signed the certificate after looking him up on Linkedin.

From: Rich Boyce <rboyce212@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 6:40 PM

Subject: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

To: <info@curacaolicensing.com>, <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

This company doing business under the name Wagerinox is committing banking fraud and illegally withholding all withdrawal requests for payment they have received. I've been in contact with about 40 other persons who are owed money from this business and they have not paid anyone. It is my belief that they have yet to issue funds to a single customer while they continue to process deposits and collect funds from hundreds of customers. This business is committing fraud and we will continue to seek out every possible legal action available until they either pay their debts or shut down. 

Regards

The players can submit a complaint and if that is unresolved, the safety index of the casino will be lowered. This is the only thing which can be done here, unfortunately. We hope the low safety index will be helpful, at least, in cases like this.

Thank you for your insides and tat you case about others, as well. Hopefully there will be some light at the end of this tunnel.🤞 We are really sorry, that we can not be of any more help here.

I think we have definitive proof of conspiracy to commit fraud.

This email is from the the same "licensing" company that appears on what Wagerinox is claiming to be their gaming license certificate. According to C.I.L. Curaçao Interactive Licensing N.V., neither the casino's website nor the company is known to them. Unless they are lying simply to save face about issuing a license to a business committing securities fraud, then this gaming license was completely falsified and Wagerinox is guilty of a few more crimes than I originally anticipated. I'm still holding onto hope that a few of these people will be held accountable. They messed with the wrong disgruntled gambler this time.

update:

---------- Forwarded message ---------

From: CIL - Info <info@curacaolicensing.com>

Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 2:16 AM

Subject: Re: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

To: Rich Boyce

Cc: CIL - HelpDesk <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

Dear Rich, 

Unfortunately it is. We already contacted the management of the company Predicten N.V. informing them of this for their action.

From: Rich Boyce

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 11:15:10 PM

To: CIL - Info <info@curacaolicensing.com>

Cc: CIL - HelpDesk <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

Subject: Re: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

So this is a falsified document attached?

Generally speaking, the CIL license is one of the weakest. As you may see, it's just an ordinary pdf document, which is quite easy to alter or forge for anyone these days. 🙁

If I'm not mistaken, you attached this document to emails sent to the CIL representative, and the response was "Unfortunately it is." Am I correct at this point? Thus, I bet it proves the document is not of true origin.

Anyway, I'm forwarding your findings to our dedicated Data Team. The current review says the license is held under CEG and is still, unverifiable.

We'll be in touch with you for further updates.

Hi!

Anything new on your side?

I'm back with a bit of follow-up. We're trying to get an official response from the licensing authority, probably from both. Based on the outcome, the review will be changed accordingly if necessary.

These investigations may be slow, but I'm trying to stay in touch with the process.

Yes, he is confirming that the document is a forgery. I haven't done any additional follow up here unfortunately. I'm in my last week of a 16 month full stack developer course and I've simply been too busy to continue chasing down this casino. It really feels that someone besides a private citizen who had $600 stolen from him should be lead investigator on this. If I'm not mistaken what they're doing would be considered a fairly serous ``crime in most countries, yet even with this knowledge, I can still go on their site right now and deposit money.

Unfortunately our data team has not received any answers yet, so we don't have any kind of update. It is really up to players, many times, to find out more details about an online casinos, simply from their experience by playing there. Other wise it is really difficult to keep up with so so many online casinos all over the world and we are thankful to all the players to help us with it this way. I hope we will be able to find out more soon.

glem dine penge du vil aldrig få dem ingen kan hjælpe dig, jeg ventede i 1,5 måned der skete intet ingen hjælp .tips åbne et kasino stjæl folks penge køre det er det vilde vesten røve folk det er ulovligt!!!

Ja, jeg ved det, jeg har ventet på 300 euro siden den 3. marts. Men jeg har givet op, fordi jeg ikke har nerverne til disse svindlere. Og ja, man kan ikke få hjælp eller tip nogen steder, hvilket er en skam.

my friend won on Winsly casino and lucky jungle casino ,lucky jungle casino fast withdraws INSTANT now he is waiting nearly 2 weeks nothing happens all documentation finished.and Winsly casino over a month no payout what happening in this online casino world ,crises?

he is waiting for 850 euros congrats the casinos seams not to responsibility.

best stay away from casinos even licensed casinos fool people because no one cares no regulation BUT the most important is hard verification

Jeg spillede disse 200 euro op, jeg ventede på, virker meget mærkeligt nu på det seneste med

udbetalinger kan du undre dig over, hvad der foregår.

Jeg spurgte hver dag og hver dag fik jeg det samme svar. Det var ikke et menneske, der svarede, men en robot, og hver dag det samme svar. Det er jeg træt af. De burde blive kvalt af de penge, de stjæler fra folk. Ingen her fik deres gevinster, INGEN

Months ago I remember seeing people here complain about held withdrawals and it's crazy there are still problems with this site, I gave them the benefit of doubt but now I think we can label it as a scam site, too many complaints

Yes this casino is not paying any of it's customers. It amazes me they haven't been shut down. We still have yet to confirm any players receiving funds from this casino...at least I haven't. And I tried for about 4 months to find someone.

It seems this casino has never paid anyone at all, all complaints turned out unsolved which just means the users filing them never got paid. This is not the first scam casino and certainly not the last one, there are many of them

Du kan spille så højt som du vil, du får ikke pengene. Dette er hvad min historie siger 3.3.

It's sad that there are such casinos, but unfortunately we probably won't be able to avoid them. I have looked at their safety index (3,3) and I have also seen a warning that they do not try to cooperate with us and do not respond to complaints. So that's probably not the way to go either because all that will happen is that the casino's safety index will be lowered. Of course, at the very least, I would recommend a complaint, but it probably won't solve anything. I'm sorry you played in such a casino and I hope it won't happen again. 🙁